WI: Lee Kwan Yew restores the Tang Dynasty in South East Asia

How is it plausible the Lee Kwan Yew creates a South East Asian Tang state.

What the fuck? Seriously, this might be the most ridiculous thread I've ever seen. You are aware that the Tang Dynasty ended more than a thousand years before Lee Kuan Yew was born, yes? Not to mention that despite controlling parts of Southeast Asia at times, the Tang Dynasty was not a Southeast Asian but rather a Chinese state. So a "South East Asian Tang state" is really a meaningless term. I should also note that despite the fact that the Tang imperial family's surname was Li, there is no relation between that family and Lee Kuan Yew. Li/Lee is the most common surname in the world. Once more, with feeling: what the fuck?

EDIT: OK, I've got it. The OP has to be using "Tang" to mean ethnic Chinese in general, like how sometimes you'll see Chinatown as 唐人街. The thread isn't completely insane, it's just poorly-worded and not at all thought out. I'm strangely disappointed.
 
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As someone who lived there a great deal of his life, this is a fucking retarded idea that should be taken behind a barn and executed through bullet from back.
 
What the fuck? Seriously, this might be the most ridiculous thread I've ever seen. You are aware that the Tang Dynasty ended more than a thousand years before Lee Kuan Yew was born, yes? Not to mention that despite controlling parts of Southeast Asia at times, the Tang Dynasty was not a Southeast Asian but rather a Chinese state. So a "South East Asian Tang state" is really a meaningless term. I should also note that despite the fact that the Tang imperial family's surname was Li, there is no relation between that family and Lee Kuan Yew. Li/Lee is the most common surname in the world. Once more, with feeling: what the fuck?

While you are of course correct I sort of figured he was saying WI LKY started an ethnic Chinese dynasty, with Singapore becoming a Kingdom instead of Republic.
 
My Jaw dropped ... hard . Is this guy trying to troll here ? Actually , if this was in ASBs , then this would be a rather hilarious discussion on how to make an impossible , absurd situation semi-plausible by the help of conveniently unrealistic ASBs. Note that this is an Oxy-moron .

Now for the ASB option : A certain ASB decides to conquer an Earth from a time-line exactly like our own, in 1975 . His presence creates a new time-line branching out from our time-line . He needs a human form , to freely operate in . Guess whose body he hijacks for the fun of it . ..

Of course , this is utter ASB , absolutely fun , and in no way related to anything approximating reality.
 
I agree with the other critics here. The poster needs a lot more detail or is seriously out to lunch. Bringing back ancient memories in history is normally the realm of armchair academics, most unlike a budding Cambridge Lawyer named 'Harry' Lee who had to learn Chinese (written language) in his 30's I recall from his autobiography.

In the 1950-1980's the Taiwan Chaing regime encouraged arm chair academics pontificating about return to Han or Tang or whatever as harmless spinning of wheels, whereas the real power was grist in an iron fist or perhaps cozy relationships with the bamboo union (maifia). Later president Hakka/Taiwanese Lee Dung Wei (sp) was an academic poetry guy, probably not an armchair historian, but deeply in those circles. So deeply reportedly (the books are all in Chinese and above my level) that every single friend and associate either was imprisoned in Green Island torture hotel, under house arrest for many years, or was killed outright. Yet he was on a fast track to KMT elected positions. Peccaries could hypothetically pilot 747s, so maybe it was all a coincidence?

Suffice to say, one had to live by your wits all over Chinese diaspora during Harry's (you're the best Englishman east of the Suez, on British manager said in his younger years) time, not a good period for academics in hazy Ozymandias dreams. This is the reason for the picture of those turbulent days which needs few captions. Hard headed people survived. Those who had grand dreams usually were gulled to something like returning to the PRC, as hundreds of thousands apparently were over 15 years, all so Chicoms could pick though for maybe 1,000 to start up the nuclear bomb industry from scratch. The really unwanted others were under house arrest at best. Nice pontificating.

Instead of pontificating (or trolling, hard to tell here) how about Pontianak? More specifically, The Lanfang Republic, 1777- 1884: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanfang_Republic , which one of Harry Lee's ancestors was a President, I recall. All of these people heading those semi-autonomous groups were extremely practical insofar as understanding the knife edge on which they lived in, kowtowing to the local Sultans, which on the whole were very considerate in Pontianak. The real world is far more broad than most people here guess, and that a pragmatic personage of President Lee's character would do anything so outrageous as imagine a wonderful time in the past and aim for that direction is very strange. Suharto or Prince Sihanouk, yes, Lee, no.

I also encourage you to spend more time in the off topic page, where subjects like this recently uncovered document could be discussed in detail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4cjPHjFz5g&feature=related
Better yet, do it in 6 days, just after the 31st, and talk about what that astronaut was exactly saying!! It is beyond me.
 
I apologize for the tone. Looking over some of of the poster's many, many threads, some interesting ones came up. But Asia does not seem to be a strong suit. https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=177587

Asia's history is very deep and often very detailed in surviving historical record, just so you know. Unfortunately, in SE Asia much is untranslated from Arabic (hundreds of Malay Sultanates) or whatever. To step into the waters, it might be encouraged to modify your ideas to what posters say, as the information would make a much better scenario, instead of floating an idea and leaving. You are not a troll, but could use some persistence in the suggestions.

Also of note is the fantastic smallish state of Tambora, of foreign links: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4748902.stm
 
*hands kasumigenx a bottle of bactine and a roll of gauze*

Youch, that one didn't go over very well, now did it? Been there, done that, know how you feel. Let me help you remove those arrows from your sternum while we ponder transferring this idea over to ASB.
 
No, he wasn't. Lee Kuan Yew was Hakka, in fact. He is not related to the Tang imperial family at all. There are more than 100 million people with the surname Li. I have no idea where you got the idea that he was a Tang descendant, but it is totally incorrect.
 
No, he wasn't. Lee Kuan Yew was Hakka, in fact. He is not related to the Tang imperial family at all. There are more than 100 million people with the surname Li. I have no idea where you got the idea that he was a Tang descendant, but it is totally incorrect.

That is what I think actually about him, I think that he is a Tang descendant because he built a tang monument in singapore but it is possible that he is not a tang descendant.
 
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