WI: Larger bantustans?

A fellow called Nicholas Sambanis has some interesting things to say on the subject of partition.

In two influential articles Chaim Kaufmann elaborated a set of hypotheses on the usefulness of partition as a solution to ethnic civil war, building on the arguments of John Mearsheimer and Stephen Van Evera. 1 Before them, a first wave of theorists had considered the benefits and costs of partition. A prominent theorist, Donald Horowitz, suggested that
if the short run is so problematical, if the constraints on policy innovation are many, if even grand statements need patchwork readjustment, perhaps it is a mistake to seek accommodation among the antagonists. If it is impossible for groups to live together in a heterogeneous state, perhaps it is better for them to live apart in more than one homogeneous state, even if this necessitates population transfers. Separating the antagonists--partition--is an option increasingly recommended for consideration where groups are territorially concentrated. 2​
It is hard to argue with such a statement. Assuming that "the constraints of policy innovation" and "the short run" can be accurately measured ex ante, it would be easy to recommend partition for some [End Page 437] countries while trying to patch up others. However, neither the first nor the second wave of theorists was able to produce operational criteria for applying the theory consistently across cases.
Despite this lack of operational applicability and clarity, partition theory, with its intuitive appeal, has been shaping scholarly and policy opinion on how to end ethnic civil wars. To help policymakers make informed decisions about the usefulness of partition as a strategy to end civil war, I compiled a new data set of all civil wars in the post-World War II era and used that data set to empirically test the set of hypotheses that constitute partition theory.
I focus on the second wave of partition theorists, who have had the greatest impact on the debate. According to them, ethnic violence implies that civil politics cannot be restored unless "ethnic groups are demographically separated into defensible enclaves. . . . Solutions that aim at restoring multi-ethnic civil politics and at avoiding population transfers--such as power-sharing, state re-building, or identity reconstruction--cannot work because they do nothing to dampen the security dilemma." 3
The so-called security dilemma lies at the core of partition theory. The dilemma in its purest form arises when one community faces a distrustful other and one's actions to increase one's own security are perceived as threatening the security of others. 4 Posen argues that this dynamic is intensified when the opponents belong to different ethnic groups. 5 Ethnic civil wars, argue partition theorists, are characterized by strong and fixed identities, by weak ideological and strong religious overtones, by the dissemination of tales of atrocities to strengthen mobilization, and by easy recognition of identities and the existence of only limited scope for individual choice. Therefore, once war starts, the theory goes, all members of the group must be mobilized because other ethnic groups will inevitably recognize them as enemies. 6 This inescapable destiny reinforces the dynamics of war and must lead to partition, since "once ethnic groups are mobilized for war, the war cannot end until the populations are separated into defensible, mostly homogeneous regions. . . . Ethnic separation . . . allows . . . cleansing and rescue imperatives [to] disappear; war is no longer mandatory." 7 [End Page 438]
However intuitive that reasoning may be, it is nothing more than a series of unsubstantiated assertions. Beyond a handful of self-selected cases, partition theorists have not presented proof that partition is the only viable and credible solution to ethnic civil war. They have not even proven that partition outperforms other war outcomes in terms of peace-building potential. The theory is indeed plausible under strict assumptions, but are these assumptions realistic?
This paper poses a serious challenge to partition theorists by providing a rigorous test of the theory with a comparison of post-civil war realities in both partitioned and nonpartitioned states. It focuses on countries that have experienced civil war; it does not consider cases of peaceful partition. 8 I begin by summarizing other authors' critiques of partition theory in the next section. I then identify the main determinants of war-related partition and test the three core hypotheses of partition theory: (1) that partitions facilitate postwar democratization; (2) that they prevent war recurrence; and (3) that they significantly reduce residual low-level ethnic violence. My tests lead me to reject the most critical tenets of partition theory. I find that partitions do not help prevent recurrence of ethnic war and that they may not even be necessary to stop low-level ethnic violence.
https://muse.jhu.edu/journals/world_politics/v052/52.4sambanis.html
 
There have been some rumblings about it, and in the last election the only province where the ANC increased its support was in KwaZulu-Natal, the only province with a Zulu majority. This was probably because Zuma is a Zulu.

There are few ethnically-based parties in South Africa. There is only really the Zulu Inkatha Freedom Party (which has a surprisingly diverse leadership, three of its prominent members of parliament are an ethnic Indian, a white Afrikaner, and an Italian immigrant) and the Freedom Front Plus, which is an explicitly white Afrikaner party.

The ANC's leadership is still quite diverse and still has quite a few whites within its leadership.

I don't think tribalism will become a major problem in the near future, but who can say what the situation will be in the next decade or two.

Right, thanks for that. I've always been dissatisfied with "tribalism" as a concept mind you. Being told that your ethnic conflict is the result of "tribalism" is a bit like your doctor telling you that you have a fever because your temperature is high.
 
Right, thanks for that. I've always been dissatisfied with "tribalism" as a concept mind you. Being told that your ethnic conflict is the result of "tribalism" is a bit like your doctor telling you that you have a fever because your temperature is high.

Agreed.

Tribes is also such a loaded term, smacks of paternalism.
 

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Fear not, I wrote that in order to resist the temptation to address in your rather . . . fruitier language.

Feel free to say to me whatever you want. I never liked autocensure and I never was a c**t to report people with different attitudes even if expressed on rather less polite manner. PM me if you want.;)
 
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Intresting.
Bold: Certainly, why not?;)

It's a rough map, but I plan on eventually making a high-quality map once I got all of the details sorted out

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1. Ciseki
2. Transeki
3. Lesotho
4. Kwazulu
5. Swaziland
6. Lebowa
7. Gazankulu
8. Venda
9. South Ndebele
10. Botswana

This is what I expect a partition to look like (assuming the South Africa government is in the position of strength, which they are likely to be in), as the South African government is likely going to want to keep any major city with a White population above 25-30%, along with retaining as much mineral resources as possible, and important ports, roads, etc.

Does anyone think the Zulu and Northern Sotho homelands could be split in two Bantustans like the Xhosa were?

Also, to any South Africans / South Africa experts, are there any areas I give to the Bantustans that the South Africa government would be very unlikely to yield?
 
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It's a rough map, but I plan on eventually making a high-quality map once I got all of the details sorted out

1. Ciseki
2. Transeki
3. Lesotho
4. Kwazulu
5. Swaziland
6. Lebowa
7. Gazankulu
8. Venda
9. South Ndebele
10. Botswana

This is what I expect a partition to look like (assuming the South Africa government is in the position of strength, which they are likely to be in), as the South African government is likely going to want to keep any major city with a White population above 25-30%, along with retaining as much mineral resources as possible, and important ports, roads, etc.

Does anyone think the Zulu and Northern Sotho homelands could be split in two Bantustans like the Xhosa were?

Also, to any South Africans / South Africa experts, are there any areas I give to the Bantustans that the South Africa government would be very unlikely to yield?

It doesn't look too unlikely.

There are one or two small issues. For example, it is unlikely that Swaziland would extend that far west, because then Nelspruit would be part of the Bantustan, for example.
 
Is it accurate to assume the apartheid regime will form a "South African Economic Community" or something similarly benign-sounding to legitimize retaining actual control over Bantustans while keeping South Africa itself white?

If so, can they compel Swaziland, Lesotho, and Botswana to "accede" to the SAEC?
 
Is it accurate to assume the apartheid regime will form a "South African Economic Community" or something similarly benign-sounding to legitimize retaining actual control over Bantustans while keeping South Africa itself white?

If so, can they compel Swaziland, Lesotho, and Botswana to "accede" to the SAEC?

There were plans to create a 'constellation of states' in Southern Africa.

Swaziland and Lesotho probably wouldn't have much of a choice in the matter, being heavily dependent on South Africa economically. Botswana would be different I think.
 
Lesotho and Swaziland were indeed heavily dependent on SA, but they weren't potemkin puppet states run by quislings, as the "homelands" were and these putative enlarged bantustans would have been.

What's the point of this thought experiment? To say that apartheid or white supremacy could have endured given different policies? I'd say that a more extreme bantustan policy of the kind envisaged here would have triggered a more extreme backlash from the majority population.
 
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Only where ethnic groups have well-defined geographical areas. The thing about South Africa is that the white population was not really concentrated area, and spread out across pretty much the whole country.

Well, more an in between, you're of course right the White population as a whole does not all say live in one province, however most of it does live in a handful of area, with several large chunks of the countries have little to no White population.

Going by the 2011 Census results the bulk of the population lives along the South West coast, a sprawling (though not all connected) area centered on Johanesburg and then 4 oddly large contiguous outlier areas.


Incidentally, in terms of partition, if South Africa was partitioned in the late 80's to mid-90's (say things going differently and the Apartheid government reaching a point where partition was seen as the only safe solution due to interracial and interethnic conflict escelating beyond reconile), with the government working from a slightly weakened position (that abandoned the Bantustans) I could see something generally like the below;

90's Partition South Africa.png
 
Well, more an in between, you're of course right the White population as a whole does not all say live in one province, however most of it does live in a handful of area, with several large chunks of the countries have little to no White population.

Going by the 2011 Census results the bulk of the population lives along the South West coast, a sprawling (though not all connected) area centered on Johanesburg and then 4 oddly large contiguous outlier areas.


Incidentally, in terms of partition, if South Africa was partitioned in the late 80's to mid-90's (say things going differently and the Apartheid government reaching a point where partition was seen as the only safe solution due to interracial and interethnic conflict escelating beyond reconile), with the government working from a slightly weakened position (that abandoned the Bantustans) I could see something generally like the below;

That map has some weird things going on.

Why do so many whites live in that eastern corner of Limpopo?

:eek:
 
That map has some weird things going on.

Why do so many whites live in that eastern corner of Limpopo?

:eek:

It's basically a case of the area having been sparesely inhabited and the White population moving in and becoming the majority population by simply outnumbering the few native groups; the area in question is even now sparsely inhabited, with only 1-3 people per Kilometer.
 
According to the 2011 Census, that area is 93% black African, so there is a mistake in that map.

http://census2011.adrianfrith.com/place/963

Actually both are correct; if you overlay the population density map over the map in that link you can see that the area in the link includes both that white area as well an area next to it that's majority black in the map I used and has a very high population desnity.

In short the map in the link includes a larger area than the area shown on the map I used.
 
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