WI: Kunigunde of Austria Born Male

Kunigunde of Austria was the only surviving sibling of the later Emperor Maximilian. She was also, thus, Emperor Friedrich III's only daughter. Betrothed first to the king of Poland's son and then an attempt by Matyas Corvinus to wed her to his bastard son, Janos (although the series Maximilian: Das Spiel von Macht und Liebe seems to suggest that she was intended to marry Matyas himself), she finally married the duke of Bavaria-Munich against her father's wishes.

But what if Kunigunde had been born male? How would this affect things, if at all? Friedrich would have no bargaining chips to promise to Kasimierz IV or Matyas, but what else?
 
Depends on genderbend Kunigunde's personality. We could see, for example, even more messed conflicf over Hungarian throne-if both sons have appetite for Hungarian crown we could see Habsburg calque of Vladislaus II vs John Albert conflict.
 
Depends on genderbend Kunigunde's personality. We could see, for example, even more messed conflicf over Hungarian throne-if both sons have appetite for Hungarian crown we could see Habsburg calque of Vladislaus II vs John Albert conflict.

I was actually wondering if Friedrich wouldn't pull a split of lands similar to what Karl V did. Maximilian marries Marie of Burgundy and ends up ruling Burgundy and Austria as OTL, while his brother, let's call him Johann, (like Fritz's third son, who TTL is born female and named Kunigunde) gets the Hungarian crown in 1490. I'm not sure if this is plausible or not, since there's no Hungarian princess available - like with Anna of Bohemia/Ferdinand - but it's a thought
 
since there's no Hungarian princess available - like with Anna of Bohemia/Ferdinand - but it's a thought
Hungarian? Not. But of Hungarian royal blood-there is, Johann could marry one of Casimir's IV daughters (Sophia is of right age).

Another question-whom is Albert of Bavaria-Munich going to marry?
 
Hungarian? Not. But of Hungarian royal blood-there is, Johann could marry one of Casimir's IV daughters (Sophia is of right age).

Another question-whom is Albert of Bavaria-Munich going to marry?

Well considering that he was 18 years older than Kunigunde, he doesn't seem to have been in a great hurry to get married. However, Albrecht's older brother, Sigmund, was betrothed to Margarethe of Brandenburg (1449-1489) but I can't seem to find a reason why the match was called off. Might not take any great strides to let Albrecht pick up the slack?
 
I think the Male Kunigunde would marry Sophia Jagiellon who was engaged to Max before he married Mary of Burgundy.
 
Well, considering the amount of kids she had with her OTL husband, I'm sure that may change more than a few people's histories.
And considered the fact that Sophia's two uncles, grandfather and great-grandfather were Kings of Hungary Johann would have better claim to Hungarian throne than Max.
 
So in other words, two lines of Habsburgs again? One in Hungary and one in the Holy Roman Empire?
Maybe, although Johann is not guaranteed to win struggle for Hungarian throne in 1490 (especially if Max also wants the throne, which is likely, IITL both Max and Friedrich wanted Hungary and had different views how their policy of retaking lands of Ladislaus V for Habsburg dynasty should look like. Friedrich wanted just to wait Matthias out, Max was less patient and more active.
 
Maybe, although Johann is not guaranteed to win struggle for Hungarian throne in 1490 (especially if Max also wants the throne, which is likely, IITL both Max and Friedrich wanted Hungary and had different views how their policy of retaking lands of Ladislaus V for Habsburg dynasty should look like. Friedrich wanted just to wait Matthias out, Max was less patient and more active.

Friedrich has an awesome line in Maximilian where he shouts at his son who tells throws a tantrum about Friedrich doing nothing: "God makes 2 types of soldiers. Those that are never defeated because they destroy everything they conquer [implied to be Maximilian]. And those who are never defeated because their opponents are exhausted. God never gave me a sword, but He DID give me a strong suit of armour!"

Would make a kickass line if it were OTL. But I do understand your point about Kaiser Sleepyhead and Max having different approaches. Do you think Johann will be rash à la Maximilian or more calculating/patient like his dad?
 
Friedrich has an awesome line in Maximilian where he shouts at his son who tells throws a tantrum about Friedrich doing nothing: "God makes 2 types of soldiers. Those that are never defeated because they destroy everything they conquer [implied to be Maximilian]. And those who are never defeated because their opponents are exhausted. God never gave me a sword, but He DID give me a strong suit of armour!"

Would make a kickass line if it were OTL. But I do understand your point about Kaiser Sleepyhead and Max having different approaches. Do you think Johann will be rash à la Maximilian or more calculating/patient like his dad?
Johann's character is up to you. Another question is which son would Friedrich support? If Johann agrees with dad's line answer is rather obvious. That would make Max bitter
 
Johann's character is up to you. Another question is which son would Friedrich support? If Johann agrees with dad's line answer is rather obvious. That would make Max bitter

AIUI, the main incentive for Max-Marie's marriage was financial, and Burgundy was much richer than Austria. Which makes me wonder if the Hungarians won't back Johann (particularly if he's married to a Jagiellon princess - or slated to marry one) instead. He's poorer, more likely to be beholden the magnates (basically, a similar reason that the citizens of Florence went with Cosimo I "one had in mind the innkeeper, the other the glutton". Max already referred to Friedrich as a grocer/merchant who would barter rather than fight) plus it avoids any messy personal unions between the empire and Hungary.
 
AIUI, the main incentive for Max-Marie's marriage was financial, and Burgundy was much richer than Austria. Which makes me wonder if the Hungarians won't back Johann (particularly if he's married to a Jagiellon princess - or slated to marry one) instead. He's poorer, more likely to be beholden the magnates (basically, a similar reason that the citizens of Florence went with Cosimo I "one had in mind the innkeeper, the other the glutton". Max already referred to Friedrich as a grocer/merchant who would barter rather than fight) plus it avoids any messy personal unions between the empire and Hungary.
Still Vladislaus had some advantages over him:
-he is known as rex bene magnates are looking for weak king.
-he is de facto unmarried (so Beatrice would support him with her money, that means Black Army fights for him)
-he is King of Bohemia, that means electiong him Hungarians could solve conflict with Czechs over Silesia, Moravia and Lusatia.
Johann had one advantage over Max-he does not need to care about Brittany.
 
If Maximilian has a brother already married with a Jagellon princess I think who he will support his brother in Hungary... Or if Max want Hungary over his brother will marry Beatrice himself
 
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