In January 1989, the Ayatollah Khomeini wrote an open letter to Mikhail Gorbachev. In the letter, Khomeini applauded Gorbachev for recognising the need for reform within the USSR and for supposedly seeing the ways that Marxism was insufficient as an ideology. However, he warned that, the way things were going, Communism might be replaced by liberal capitalism in the USSR, which would be equally disastrous. Therefore, the Ayatollah proposed that Gorbachev consider embracing Islam, both as a religion and a political ideology; Islam is, of course, a divine truth, and political Islam provides a spiritual element necessary for society, which the strict materialism of Communism and Capitalism both deny.

Naturally, the intention behind this letter was probably for propaganda purposes within Iran, pointing out that the great Soviet Union had been unable to stand up to Western imperialism while the Islamic Republic endures. It was controversial within Iran, however -- within the letter, the Ayatollah cites Sunni thinkers like ibn 'Arabi, Avicenna, and al-Farabi as sources for Iran's political ideology, which the more sectarian elements of the Shia ulema found objectionable.

Of course, Gorbachev never converted to Islam (as far as we know; if Allah hath judged Secretary Gorbachev among the faithful, well, I suppose we'll find out on the Day of Judgement). And I find it extremely unlikely for the USSR to replace Communism with political Islam as its foundational ideology; that'd take a miracle from Allah, or ASB.

However, the collapse of the USSR and the early days of the Russian Federation + the other post-Soviet states were periods of great social and cultural turmoil. This happened concurrently with the Soviet evacuation from Afghanistan in February 1989 (about a month after Khomeini sent his letter) and the Afghan Civil War, which led to the establishment of the first Taliban government in Afghanistan. Is it possible, in the context of great social upheaval, for there to be a new popular interest in Islam among disaffected Russian youths, as an alternative to both Capitalism and Communism? Maybe Islam would become more popular in Russia in the 1990s, after Capitalism failed to meet expectations in Russia. Maybe a Chechen victory in the 1994-1996 conflict, coupled with the memory of the war in Afghanistan, could be seen as miraculous proof of Islam to some Russians. I don't foresee Russia ever becoming a Muslim-majority country, but maybe Russian Muslims could be something like Black American Muslims, like Malcolm X or Muhammad Ali -- a minority religious movement, with wider political goals expressed as part of their religious identity. This is to say nothing of the Tatars, Bashkirs, or other Muslim minorities within Russia or other former Soviet states, of course.

Of course, I would imagine Khomeini's letter might have a greater impact on the former Soviet states of Central Asia and the Caucasus, especially since Khomeini expressed sympathy for Sunni theologians and political thinkers. Socialism was popular in Iran, too -- while secular socialist or Marxist parties were banned, "Islamic Socialism" remained a popular ideology, and thinkers like Ali Shariati were foundational to the Iranian Revolution. Perhaps, if the new Central Asian republics modeled themselves after Iran as well as the USSR, this could lead to a reconciliation between Iranian leftists and the Islamist regime, and possibly direct Iran's foreign policy more strongly against the monarchies of the Gulf.

I don't know what this would mean for Iraq, which was ostensibly secular-socialist but which used religious rhetoric a lot, especially in the Iran-Iraq War and the First Gulf War. I doubt either Saddam Hussein or the Ayatollah Khomeini would be interested in reconciliation, but if Iran was engaging more actively with the former Soviet Union, and if Iraq was still subject to the same sanctions as OTL after the First Gulf War, they might be forced to reconcile by circumstance. This reconciliation might be facilitated by Syria -- a Baathist country like Iraq, but also one with longstanding ties to Iran.

So, what do you all think? Cheers, all!
 
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As you seem to suggest, the most you'd probably be able to get is some Soviet youth embracing something analagous to the Nation Of Islam in the USA. IOW, highly heterodox, to the point where most Muslims wouldn't consider it authentic Islam at all, and more influential via non-devout fellow-travelers in the secular world(eg. hip-hop stars living the rich--gangster life while making the odd laudatory reference to Farrakhan in their lyrics).

The media might hype it up a little, like they do with NOI in America, but it wouldn't be a significant sociopolitical player.

And really, NOI made marginally more sense, because some African Americans might harbour vague notions that, prior to slavery and colonization, their ancestors were part of some great Islamic empire. But doesn't mystical Russian nationalism posit the motherland as some bulwark of Christian values against the swarthy mobs of Mongols, Muslims etc?
 
As you seem to suggest, the most you'd probably be able to get is some Soviet youth embracing something analagous to the Nation Of Islam in the USA. IOW, highly heterodox, to the point where most Muslims wouldn't consider it authentic Islam at all, and more influential via non-devout fellow-travelers in the secular world(eg. hip-hop stars living the rich--gangster life while making the odd laudatory reference to Farrakhan in their lyrics).

The media might hype it up a little, like they do with NOI in America, but it wouldn't be a significant sociopolitical player.

And really, NOI made marginally more sense, because some African Americans might harbour vague notions that, prior to slavery and colonization, their ancestors were part of some great Islamic empire. But doesn't mystical Russian nationalism posit the motherland as some bulwark of Christian values against the swarthy mobs of Mongols, Muslims etc?

To be sure, but "Russian mysticism" is a broad category. Plenty of contradictory ideas -- Christianity, paganism, Satanism, fascism, Communism, monarchism, and others -- have found a home on the Russian esoteric scene and political fringes, and several movements have emerged trying to reconcile various combinations of them (e.g., the Nazbols, the Eurasianists, etc). I don't see why Islam (or some esoteric/political movement which appropriates Islamic aesthetics) couldn't also find a place in the same weird bit of Russian society.

I doubt the Ayatollah Khomeini would ever want to associate with folks like Alexander Dugin. But maybe there could be a Moscow or Kazan chapter of Hezbollah. Or Hizb-ut-Tahrir or the Muslim Brotherhood as Sunni alternatives.
 
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I can't really see how a Chechen victory would lead to increased sympathy let alone even moderate rates of conversion by Russian youth. Especially with the tactics they were using outside of Chechnya which regardless of any other effect weren't going to encourage even relatively decent sized conversions to Islam amongst those who were ethnically Russians whose families were traditionally Eastern Orthodox ( and who tended to stay that way even under the Soviets. Even if under the Soviets you couldn't be that open about it.).

Post Soviet break up you might see a resurgence of open Islamic faith in areas and among groups that had traditionally been Muslims of one sect or another both in the now independent former Soviet Central Asian Republics and in the parts of the remaining Russian federation where the ethnic groups/ peoples in question had traditionally been muslims but not mass conversion of Slavic traditionally Orthodox populations.

At most you might see an even stronger resurgence of more more devout Islamic faith among the groups who pre Soviets had already been muslims. And maybe at most see more conversion of Ethnic Russian traditionally orthodox peoples in the newly independent Central Asian Republics who's ancestors had been colonists or internal deportees during the Soviet Union. Those ethnic Russians are still major minority populations in some of the Stans ( I think Kazakhstan is still today something like 30-40 percent ethnicly Russian.). These people tend to still be orthodox thirty years after the fall of the Soviet Union but some percentage of them copying their neighbors and at least nominally converting to Islam is possible.

Its just not happening with that POD in the Russian Federation amongst groups who hadn't already mostly been quietly religous muslims to various degrees.
 
To be sure, but "Russian mysticism" is a broad category. Plenty of contradictory ideas -- Christianity, paganism, Satanism, fascism, Communism, monarchism, and others -- have found a home on the Russian esoteric scene and political fringes, and several movements have emerged trying to reconcile various combinations of them (e.g., the Nazbols, the Eurasianists, etc). I don't see why Islam (or some esoteric/political movement which appropriates Islamic aesthetics) couldn't also find a place in the same weird bit of Russian society.

I doubt the Ayatollah Khomeini would ever want to associate with folks like Alexander Dugin. But maybe there could be a Moscow or Kazan chapter of Hezbollah. Or Hizb-ut-Tahrir or the Muslim Brotherhood as Sunni alternatives.
A Moscow chapter of Hezbolah or the Muslim Brotherhood ( at least ones that at least try paramilitary tactics) are going to have the opposite effect to encouraging conversion.
 
At most you might see an even stronger resurgence of more more devout Islamic faith among the groups who pre Soviets had already been muslims. And maybe at most see more conversion of Ethnic Russian traditionally orthodox peoples in the newly independent Central Asian Republics who's ancestors had been colonists or internal deportees during the Soviet Union. Those ethnic Russians are still major minority populations in some of the Stans ( I think Kazakhstan is still today something like 30-40 percent ethnicly Russian.). These people tend to still be orthodox thirty years after the fall of the Soviet Union but some percentage of them copying their neighbors and at least nominally converting to Islam is possible.
I wonder if these people would still be considered a "Russian minority" by the Russian Federation if a significant percentage of them were at least nominally Muslims.

A Moscow chapter of Hezbolah or the Muslim Brotherhood ( at least ones that at least try paramilitary tactics) are going to have the opposite effect to encouraging conversion.
To be sure, but again, I'm not asking if Russia could become a Muslim country. I'm asking if political Islam could become a significant avant-garde response to the loss of Afghanistan, the collapse of the USSR, and possibly the loss of Chechnya. If Hezbollah, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, or the Muslim Brotherhood set up shop in Moscow or Kazan, I don't think they'd do so as militant organisations (at least, not after the loss of Chechnya). They might present themselves as just regular political interest groups/religious organisations, and possibly have the goal of influencing politics in Russia by influencing Tatarstan, Bashkorostan, and whatever small section of the political avant-garde they managed to convince to convert.
 

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A Muslim Russia?

I would say this is a topic for the pre-1900 forum or for the Future History forum.

During the 20th century, this is very unrealistic.
 
Russian Muslims could be something like Black American Muslims, like Malcolm X or Muhammad Ali...
No.

The "Nation of Islam" is a cult, based on the weird preachments of Elijah Muhammad, who proclaimed himself a "Messenger of Allah", i.e. a prophet, and at one point declared that his predecessor, Wallace Fard, was an incarnation of God (both claims being flagrantly blasphemous to orthodox Moslems); also a bunch of anti-white racialist hooey about "Yacub". It appealed to some disgruntled blacks who had no contact with actual Islam. (Malcolm X went to Mecca on the hajj, and encountered actual Islam. When he got back he repudiated Elijah Muhammad and the NoI, and was murdered.)

After Elijah Muhammad died, his son took over and converted the group to conventional Islam. Then Farrakhan broke away, reviving some of the fringe doctrines and race-baiting.

There was no disgruntled minority in Russia comparable to American blacks, and conventional Islam has had a substantial presence in Russia for centuries. For example, there are millions of Moslems in Tatarstan, on the upper Volga 500 km E of Moscow. So there really was no space in Russia for anything like the NoI.
 
No.

The "Nation of Islam" is a cult, based on the weird preachments of Elijah Muhammad, who proclaimed himself a "Messenger of Allah", i.e. a prophet, and at one point declared that his predecessor, Wallace Fard, was an incarnation of God (both claims being flagrantly blasphemous to orthodox Moslems); also a bunch of anti-white racialist hooey about "Yacub". It appealed to some disgruntled blacks who had no contact with actual Islam. (Malcolm X went to Mecca on the hajj, and encountered actual Islam. When he got back he repudiated Elijah Muhammad and the NoI, and was murdered.)

After Elijah Muhammad died, his son took over and converted the group to conventional Islam. Then Farrakhan broke away, reviving some of the fringe doctrines and race-baiting.

There was no disgruntled minority in Russia comparable to American blacks, and conventional Islam has had a substantial presence in Russia for centuries. For example, there are millions of Moslems in Tatarstan, on the upper Volga 500 km E of Moscow. So there really was no space in Russia for anything like the NoI.

Well certainly, it wouldn't be a one-to-one comparison. Obviously, the Nation of Islam could have only come about within the context of minority politics, and I'm talking about a similar movement among the Russian majority. However, as you said, both Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali, along with many others, embraced Sunni Islam, and to this day there's a not-inconsiderable population of black American Muslims, most of whom (iirc) are Sunni Muslims while a minority of whom follow Farrakhan or other fringe heresies.

I suppose a better analogy for the sort of movement I mean is a kind of Third Worldism, which inspired Idi Amin and other pan-Africanists to convert to Islam.
 
I suppose a better analogy for the sort of movement I mean is a kind of Third Worldism, which inspired Idi Amin and other pan-Africanists to convert to Islam.

The thing is, those pan-Africanists were trying to build an overarching cultural identity, more-or-less from scratch, since "Africa" as a political or even a cultural concept didn't really exist before colonization. So apart from tribal traditions, which likely wouldn't translate well cross-regionally, they didn't have a lot to go on.

Russia, by contrast, definitely had a received notion of "Russian-ness", bound up with the Orthodox Church and a bunch of other stuff. So there was less incentive to go fishing around for outside belief systems, ESPECIALLY one that had been a standing bogeyman of the pre-existing nationalism.
 
I don't think by the 1980's a letter alone- or even an Islamic revivalist movement- would make many inroads with the ethnic russian population of the USSR. On the outside, maybe some of the Central Asian nations which have historically been in the Iranian cultural sphere (Tajikistan) may have taken different paths post-independence into less nationalist, more Iran-leaning and residually state socialist types of development.

I *have* been thinking a lot about Islamic socialism, other potential paths for the Iranian revolution, and how that would have related to the Soviets a lot lately, and I just want to say thank you for even bringing up this letter, which I had no idea even existed. The potential for some sort of Islamist-socialist synthesis that floated around Gaddafi for a few years and had the greatest potential in the early days of the Iranian revolution is, I think, something that easily could have emerged historically and would have had colossal implications for the late Cold War.
 
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