WI: Katherine of Aragon Born Male

Who Should Fernando Jnr/Alfonso XII Marry?

  • Margaret of Austria (b.1480)

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Yolande Louise of Savoy (b.1487)

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Giovanna of Naples (b.1477)

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Charlotte of Naples-Apulia (b.1480)

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Bona Sforza (b.1494)

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Sidonie of Bavaria (b.1488)

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Anne Lascaris (b.1487)

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Suzanne de Bourbon (b.1491)

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Marie d'Albret, Countess of Rethel (b.1491)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Germaine de Foix (b.1488)/Anne de Foix-Candale (b.1484)/Anne d'Albret (b.1492)

    Votes: 12 48.0%
  • Margaret Tudor (b.1489)/Elizabeth Tudor (b.1492)

    Votes: 12 48.0%
  • Elisabeth of Denmark (b.1485)

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Elisabeth of Poland (b.1482)

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
    25
If Yolande Louise of Savoy's brother lives, how possible would that match be? Because I think a Savoy alliance would be interesting.
I think she'll make a good wife for a second son, not Princess of Asturias, though things happen.
IMO Navarre/Naples stuff is of top priority.

Also, let's settle on a girl and start debating foreign/domestic policy of Fernando VI (I'm calling him this).

Probably also knock-offs on Britain/whatever country gets affected by ATL marriage arrangements/HRE&Netherlands.
 
IDK, I'm not entirely onboard with a Tudor match because it feels like a genderswapped version of OTL, hopefully minus the stillbirths and shortlived sons because what's the point of making Catherine male if the Habsburgs still end up inheriting Spain?

I think she'll make a good wife for a second son, not Princess of Asturias, though things happen.
IMO Navarre/Naples stuff is of top priority.

Also, let's settle on a girl and start debating foreign/domestic policy of Fernando VI (I'm calling him this).

Probably also knock-offs on Britain/whatever country gets affected by ATL marriage arrangements/HRE&Netherlands.

TBF, Alfonso/Ferdinand is a second son, until Juan kicks the bucket and he's suddenly the heir.
 
IDK, I'm not entirely onboard with a Tudor match because it feels like a genderswapped version of OTL, hopefully minus the stillbirths and shortlived sons because what's the point of making Catherine male if the Habsburgs still end up inheriting Spain?
Right you are.

TBF, Alfonso/Ferdinand is a second son, until Juan kicks the bucket and he's suddenly the heir.
If there is no urgent political conflict requiring resolution, the Savoyard match may work. Though TBH the girl was extremely short-living in OTL.
 
How about we delay Juan's death until 1500? Then Ferdinand can be wed to Yolande Louise of Savoy as a second son and then poof! Prince of Asturias!
 
Yolande Louise may as well be an ATL princess stand-in, given how short lived she was. Though it would be interesting if he makes use of her Cyprus and other East Mediterranean claims.
 
That is why I want her. Louise and Ferdinand have just wed in 1499 and five months later, Juan dies!
Interesting hypothetical situation here. Spain coming into full blown conflict with Ottoman Empire over Mediterranean claims can be interesting.
 
Interesting hypothetical situation here. Spain coming into full blown conflict with Ottoman Empire over Mediterranean claims can be interesting.
A more Mediterranean-focused Spain could have consequences for the New World empire, possibly allowing other powers to get a bigger foothold there.
 
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