WI: John Plantagenet, Duke of Bedford had children?

What happens to his children in this scenario:

John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, 1st Earl of Kendal and 1st Earl of Richmond (b.1389: d.1435) m. Anne of Burgundy (b.1404: d.1432) (a), Jacquetta of Luxembourg (b.1416: d.1472) (b)

1a) Henry of Bedford (b.1425: d.1428)

2a) Anne of Bedford (b.1428)

3a) Joan of Bedford (b.1430)

4a) Mary of Bedford (b.1432: d.1432)

5b) John Plantagenet, 2nd Duke of Bedford, 2nd Earl of Kendal and 2nd Earl of Richmond (b.1434)​
 
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As Darthfanta says, the 2nd Duke of Bedford likely becomes Lord Protector when Henry goes nuts, and depending on his relationship with the Duke of York the War of the Roses might be avoided.
 
What happens to his children in this scenario:

John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, 1st Earl of Kendal and 1st Earl of Richmond (b.1389: d.1435) m.

I think the name "Anne of Burgundy" is missing here...

(b.1404: d.1432) (a), Jacquetta of Luxembourg (b.1416: d.1472) (b)

1a) Henry of Bedford (b.1425: d.1428)

2a) Anne of Bedford (b.1428)

3a) Joan of Bedford (b.1430)

4a) Mary of Bedford (b.1432: d.1432)

5b) John Plantagenet, 2nd Duke of Bedford, 2nd Earl of Kendal and 2nd Earl of Richmond (b.1434)​

John will certainly be a player in the battle to control Henry VI. So will his brothers-in-law (the husbands of Anne and Joan). The Bedfords will be the next Lancastrian line, ahead of the Beauforts, so Henry Tudor can stuff it.
 
What happens to his children in this scenario:

John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, 1st Earl of Kendal and 1st Earl of Richmond (b.1389: d.1435) m. Anne (b.1404: d.1432) (a), Jacquetta of Luxembourg (b.1416: d.1472) (b)
What is the POD, in OTL neither of his marriages brough about children, maybe you should change the wives as:
John's first marriage was to Anne, daughter of John the Fearless on 13 May 1423 in Troyes, the couple were happily married, despite being childless. Anne died of the plague in Paris in 1432, while John's second marriage was to Jacquetta of Luxembourg. This marriage was also childless, though Jacquetta went on to have more than a dozen children in her second marriage.

Potenial wives:
- Isabella of Portugal, daughter of John I of Portugal and Philippa of Lancaster
- Michele of Valois, daughter of Charles VI of France
- Anne de Mortimer, daughter of Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March and descendant of Edward III of England.
- Joan Beaufort, daughter of John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset, and Margaret Holland, and a half-cousin of John.
- Eleanor Neville, daughter of Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland and great-granddaughter of King Edward III, via John of Gaunt.
- Margaret of Burgundy, another daughter of John the Fearless.
- Catherine of Pomerania, Countess Palatine of Neumarkt, Catherine was a candidate for a time for marriage to Prince Henry of Wales, (OTL Henry V) This marriage was suggested in 1400-1401, and it was the idea that a double wedding was to be arranged between Catherine and Henry in parallel to the wedding between her brother Eric and John's sister Philippa.
- Isabel le Despenser, Countess of Worcester, posthumous daughter and eventually the sole heiress of Thomas le Despenser, 1st Earl of Gloucester by his wife, Constance of York. She was born six months after her father had been beheaded for plotting against King Henry IV.
 
What is the POD, in OTL neither of his marriages brough about children, maybe you should change the wives as:
John's first marriage was to Anne, daughter of John the Fearless on 13 May 1423 in Troyes, the couple were happily married, despite being childless. Anne died of the plague in Paris in 1432, while John's second marriage was to Jacquetta of Luxembourg. This marriage was also childless, though Jacquetta went on to have more than a dozen children in her second marriage.

Actually, according to some sources, (including the Dutch and Italian wikipedia articles on Anne de Bourgogne), her death in November '32 was due to childbed rather than plague, when she was delivered of a stillborn son.

John had two bastard kids while in France:
Richard of Bedford b. 1415, d.?, m. 1433 Isabel Haughton
Marie of Bedford b.1420 d.after 1462, m: Pierre de Montferrand, Sieur de Langoiran (+1454)
 
Ok guys, the POD is that John is in fact somewhat more fertile than OTL and thus is able to father children with his wives. Anne is also rendered more fertile.
 
Looks like the Wydeville/Woodvilles will be less inclined to support York with their halfbrother Bedford now in line for the throne.
 
John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, 1st Earl of Kendal and 1st Earl of Richmond (b.1389: d.1435) m. Anne of Burgundy (b.1404: d.1432) (a), Jacquetta of Luxembourg (b.1416: d.1472) (b)

1a) Henry of Bedford (b.1425: d.1428)

2a) Anne of Bedford (b.1428) m. Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (b.1421: d.1461) (a)

1a) John Percy, 4th Earl of Northumberland (b.1450)

2a) Anne Percy (b.1453)

3a) Miscarriage (c.1454)

4a) Philippa Percy (b.1457)​

3a) Joan of Bedford (b.1430) m. Henry de Beauchamp, 1st Duke of Warwick (b.1425: d.1446) (a), Sigismund, Archduke of Austria (b.1427: d.1496) (b)

1a) Humphrey de Beauchamp, 2nd Duke of Warwick (b.1445)

2b) Frederick V, Archduke of Austria (b.1451)

3b) Miscarriage (c.1455)

4b) Sigismund of Austria (b.1458: d.1458)​

4a) Mary of Bedford (b.1432: d.1432)

5b) John Plantagenet, 2nd Duke of Bedford, 2nd Earl of Kendal and 2nd Earl of Richmond (b.1434: d.1470) m. Eleanor of Scotland (b.1433: d.1492) (a)

1a) Henry Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of Bedford, 3rd Earl of Kendal and 3rd Earl of Richmond (b.1460)

2a) Joan of Bedford (b.1467)​
 
As others have said, the 2nd Duke of Bedford is the obvious Lord Protector / Regent for any such things. Not only does this neuter Richard of York to some extent, but it might also prevent Henry VI from promoting Somerset and Suffolk to the extent that Richard felt it was necessary to 'protect' his own dignity.

Or, if Bedford becomes Henry's new favourite, and events in France fall out similarly to OTL, then he could be the one beheaded in the Channel.

However, changes could occur before then. This new Bedford is before Humphrey of Gloucester in the succession. That means changes before 1447. The faction and infighting have changed long before the Wars of the Roses begin.

John of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Bedford, 1st Earl of Kendal and 1st Earl of Richmond (b.1389: d.1435) m. Anne of Burgundy (b.1404: d.1432) (a), Jacquetta of Luxembourg (b.1416: d.1472)

Snipped list of people
I'm just wondering: are you going to use this list of people to tell a story, or not?
 
As others have said, the 2nd Duke of Bedford is the obvious Lord Protector / Regent for any such things. Not only does this neuter Richard of York to some extent, but it might also prevent Henry VI from promoting Somerset and Suffolk to the extent that Richard felt it was necessary to 'protect' his own dignity.

Or, if Bedford becomes Henry's new favourite, and events in France fall out similarly to OTL, then he could be the one beheaded in the Channel.

However, changes could occur before then. This new Bedford is before Humphrey of Gloucester in the succession. That means changes before 1447. The faction and infighting have changed long before the Wars of the Roses begin.


I'm just wondering: are you going to use this list of people to tell a story, or not?

Possibly:D
 
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