WI: Joan of England marries Pedro the Cruel?
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Another change this causes - besides England not being involved in Castile - is that the whole OTL house of York is butterflied and both Edmund of Langley and John of Gaunt will need different wives.
My thread on the topic from some time ago:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-edward-iiis-daughter-joan-survives.478588/
My thread on the topic from some time ago:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-edward-iiis-daughter-joan-survives.478588/
John's easy. Just keep Blanche alive longer. Edmund I'm not so sure about...
IIRC, Edward III tried to have Edmund matched with Margaret of Flanders, but this was unsuccessful. Perhaps the negotiations could prove successful ITTL? Margaret's marriage to Philip of Burgundy was after the POD, if memory serves, so it's technically possible.
John of Portugal's ascension to the throne is likely butterflied away, considering that the events that led to it are very tightly tied to Trastámaran Castile, which I think we all agree is less likely to exist here. This has genuinely enormous longterm consequences for the Iberian peninsula and the world, considering that John is arguably Portugal's greatest king and set the stage for the kingdom to become a world power.
I think Ferdinand had a prestigious foreign match that he threw away in OTL because he was infatuated with Leonor Teles? He may end up doing the same in ATL.
Unlikely. Her grandma made it clear that she'd disinherit Marguerite if the marriage took place IIRC
Jeanne de Penthièvre tried for a match between her daughter and one of Edward III's sons OTL, even sent the dowager comtesse d'Angoulême to England for some months, but the price was Edward dropping his support for Jean de Montfort and Ed refused to bite. Given that Jean V's sister was in England practically her whole life and she wasn't considered for one of Ed's sons, so whether that would go through is debatable.
Marie of Blois, OTL Duchess of Anjou was born 1340/45, meaning she would suit either John or Edmund age-wise, but that requires Edward III to drop his support for the Montforts. Or, if he doesn't, Joan of Brittany, John IV's sister would also work, age-wise.
Possibly Joan of Burgundy, (b.1344)
With Blanche and Elizabeth de Clare/Eleanor de Bohun off the market, English heiresses are a bit harder to come by.
As stated above though, Edward III was keen to marry one of his sons to Margaret of Flanders, so she's another possible bride for either Edmund or John.
You could go with Caterina of Savoy (b. 1341) sister of Amadeo VI. It sounds weird, but Isabella of Woodstock was supposed to marry Amadeo, but basically stood him up at the wedding. If Edward III were desperate enough to make up for the "insult", perhaps the marriage could be arranged?
Otherwise Jeanne of Burgundy, sister-in-law of Marguerite de Flanders would work. Stepdaughter of Jean II of France and not an heiress until her brother dies. England would be far enough away from her inheritance that France doesn't have to worry about awkward PUs like her match to either the aforementioned Amadeo VI or to Charles V's brother-in-law, the duc de Bourbon, would've caused
Otherwise Jeanne of Burgundy, sister-in-law of Marguerite de Flanders would work. Stepdaughter of Jean II of France and not an heiress until her brother dies. England would be far enough away from her inheritance that France doesn't have to worry about awkward PUs like her match to either the aforementioned Amadeo VI or to Charles V's brother-in-law, the duc de Bourbon, would've caused
Another option would be Blanche or Marguerite de Bourbon (OTL queen of Castile and dame d'Albret). The former would be sister-in-law to the dauphin while the dame d'Albret married the guy originally intended for Isabella of Woodstock. Otherwise, an English heiress for York is not too unlikely