WI:Japanese Christians flee to Taiwan

What if the Japanese Christians who were expelled because of Sakoku and banning of Christianity went to Taiwan, what would happen to Taiwan. how would Taiwan develop?
 

PhilippeO

Banned
how many Japanese Christian actually succeed in leaving Japan ? the peasant not going to have enough money to pay for passage.

i think they will eventually be swamped by Fujianese immigrant. Fujianese is simply too close and too numerous.
 
how many Japanese Christian actually succeed in leaving Japan ? the peasant not going to have enough money to pay for passage.

i think they will eventually be swamped by Fujianese immigrant. Fujianese is simply too close and too numerous.

I think the Japanese expellees could have some help from the Spanish and be used by the Spanish against the Aboriginals of Taiwan who have a small population.
 
I think the Japanese expellees could have some help from the Spanish and be used by the Spanish against the Aboriginals of Taiwan who have a small population.

Problem is that only the Dutch, contesting the island with Spain, has access to Japan. And I don't know whether the shogunate is only tring to get them out of Japan(the Dutch can help in this case) or to root them out for good.
 
Problem is that only the Dutch, contesting the island with Spain, has access to Japan. And I don't know whether the shogunate is only tring to get them out of Japan(the Dutch can help in this case) or to root them out for good.

What type of Christians were the Japanese? If they were Protestants, perhaps the Dutch could transport them as a way of cementing their hold on the island (and in the case of the Spanish, vice-versa if they were Catholic).
 
What type of Christians were the Japanese? If they were Protestants, perhaps the Dutch could transport them as a way of cementing their hold on the island (and in the case of the Spanish, vice-versa if they were Catholic).
The Christians in Japan at that time were Catholic.
 

katchen

Banned
And many of the Christians in Japan were Samurai. I remember reading from I think Mann's book 1493 that Japanese Christian ronin were turning up as caravan guards in New Spain (Mexico).
I think the Japanese Christians of Shimabara would need to get to Taiwan (or more likely get all the way to the Philippines) in small boats on their own power. I think that we overestimate the number of ships and amount of tonnage that ships in the 17th Century carried. There's a reason why navies and merchants of that time were so focused on high value low volume or low weight "treasure" such as gold or silver or spices. Ships of the time simply could not make a profit on anything else. And there were not all that many of them.
 
And many of the Christians in Japan were Samurai. I remember reading from I think Mann's book 1493 that Japanese Christian ronin were turning up as caravan guards in New Spain (Mexico).
I think the Japanese Christians of Shimabara would need to get to Taiwan (or more likely get all the way to the Philippines) in small boats on their own power. I think that we overestimate the number of ships and amount of tonnage that ships in the 17th Century carried. There's a reason why navies and merchants of that time were so focused on high value low volume or low weight "treasure" such as gold or silver or spices. Ships of the time simply could not make a profit on anything else. And there were not all that many of them.
They did get to the Philippines in OTL but they later became scattered, I think the Japanese Christians going to Taiwan would be better for them because they could be useful against the Taiwanese aborigines.
 
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