WI Japan wins the Battle of Khalkhin Gol

[Kuyler]

I for one do not agree that a Japanese victory at Khalkhin Gol needs to have ASB elements to be possible. Despite all the IJA's deficiencies in supplies, armor etc and the fact that they were outnumbered, according to several sources they inflicted more casualties than they themselves suffered in the case of both of their major battles with the Soviets (Khasan and Khalkhin Gol). At the very least there is a strong case for fairly even casualties.

Therefore, providing the battle doesn't escalate by several orders of magnitude (and again I don't believe this is inevitable), I believe the IJA could certainly have scored a similar victory to the victory the Soviets won in OTL, without a huge shopping list of major enhancements (ASB or otherwise).

 

[CanadianGoose]

according to several sources they inflicted more casualties than they themselves suffered in the case of both of their major battles with the Soviets (Khasan and Khalkhin Gol). At the very least there is a strong case for fairly even casualties.

There is recurring problem with unverified claims of losses country X inflicted on Russians during battle Y. Caricature of "Russian human waves drowning enemy in Russian blood" is so well entrenched in Western historiography, such claims are almost always taken at face value. It is a running joke in Russian internet that sum of all "Russian losses" claims from different sources describing WWII is several times more than whole population of USSR was, not saying anything of Red Army numerical strength.

 

[pacifichistorian]

I tried searching for "The shot that changed the world", as well as "the shot herd round the world", and got nothing.

Are you sure you remembered the name correctly? If you give me the author's name, then I can narow the search.

I also tried googling for seperate info on this, and couldn't find anything useful....

Sorry, it's a thread here, The shot that changed Europe, post #91 by Syphon. (I'd have answered sooner, but by the time I found it, I'd lost track of this...)