WI:Japan encounters Islam instead of Christianity in 16-17th Century

Since I had said before, Brunei had already subjugated Luzon during the 16th Century, what if the Bruneians solidify their hold there and even conquer Taiwan and try to trade with the Japanese which causes Muslims to try to spread their faith to Japan.
 
Since I had said before, Brunei had already subjugated Luzon during the 16th Century, what if the Bruneians solidify their hold there and even conquer Taiwan and try to trade with the Japanese which causes Muslims to try to spread their faith to Japan.

China would likely see it as a threat and take action.

Taiwan in the 16th century was comprised of multiple petty Kingdoms and Tribal groups which were'nt a threat or of interest to China, hence they never bothered with it, however a conquest of it would cause it to either become a unified polity or controlled by one and being right next to the Mainland like that would probably make for some very unhappy Emperors and thus lead to some punitive expeditions, especially when you consider to that the Chinese would consider it a case of a semi-civilized group not showing the Heart of Civilization respect and acting out of its place.

As an aside Islam was first introduced to Japan in 1555 when an Arab from Malacca came to Japan on a Portuguese ship at which point he began preaching Islam for awhile, though whether he was forcefully expelled or just left of his own volition after awhile I don't know.
 
China would likely see it as a threat and take action.

Taiwan in the 16th century was comprised of multiple petty Kingdoms and Tribal groups which were'nt a threat or of interest to China, hence they never bothered with it, however a conquest of it would cause it to either become a unified polity or controlled by one and being right next to the Mainland like that would probably make for some very unhappy Emperors and thus lead to some punitive expeditions, especially when you consider to that the Chinese would consider it a case of a semi-civilized group not showing the Heart of Civilization respect and acting out of its place.

As an aside Islam was first introduced to Japan in 1555 when an Arab from Malacca came to Japan on a Portuguese ship at which point he began preaching Islam for awhile, though whether he was forcefully expelled or just left of his own volition after awhile I don't know.
I don't think Muslims in Taiwan would interest China..
 
Yeah, but it will be one of their dominions ruled by a cadet Bolkiah lineage and will be defacto independent.

That's still a unified polity with a link to a stronger polity than itself; China has historically not taken kindly to stuff like that on its borders unless it does'nt have an issue with the group in question.

As to the main question itself, if the Muslims arrived before the Europeans then the Daimyo's in question would make it known that they don't have any problem with their trading, but to keep their religion to themselves.
After the Europeans arrive (and given the PoD I don't see why they would'nt roughly at the time they did) then the Muslims would be treated the same way and eventually expelled from the country like the Europeans were during the Sakoku period.
 
After the Europeans arrive (and given the PoD I don't see why they would'nt roughly at the time they did) then the Muslims would be treated the same way and eventually expelled from the country like the Europeans were during the Sakoku period.

If one of the religious groups is seen as less eager to proselytize, perhaps they can avoid the ban while the authorities slam the other as a way of showing their power? "Oh, those Muslims are all right because they keep to themselves, but you Christians are troublemakers and need to GTFO."
 
If one of the religious groups is seen as less eager to proselytize, perhaps they can avoid the ban while the authorities slam the other as a way of showing their power? "Oh, those Muslims are all right because they keep to themselves, but you Christians are troublemakers and need to GTFO."

The Sakoku policy was pretty much Universal, the Japanese traded with the Ainu and Ryukyu's on account of both being partially Japanese (and thus indirectly traded with some other using them as mediaries) and had highly regulated trade with the Dutch, Chinese and Koreans through a few specific places.

Foreigners, regardless of religion or place of origin were not allowed to enter the country (save for the aforementioned designated trading places), nor were the Japanese people allowed to leave Japan, so you could'nt have transmission via converted natives either.
 
The Sakoku policy was pretty much Universal, the Japanese traded with the Ainu and Ryukyu's on account of both being partially Japanese (and thus indirectly traded with some other using them as mediaries) and had highly regulated trade with the Dutch, Chinese and Koreans through a few specific places.

Foreigners, regardless of religion or place of origin were not allowed to enter the country (save for the aforementioned designated trading places), nor were the Japanese people allowed to leave Japan, so you could'nt have transmission via converted natives either.
The POD is before Sakoku..
 
During the Sakoku trade still occurred with Korea and the Dutch. Although it was confined so to prevent any foreign influence. The Koreans provided necessary resources that the Japanese couldn't always get and the Dutch were nice enough to help purge the Catholics so they were allowed to stay as such.
Any Muslim power which trades would most likely reach the Catholic fate as they would want to spread their faith. But if they avoid that and do things the Dutch way then they could find themselves able to trade with limits.
 

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Well, just to let you guys know: Brunei was a tributary state to China and already gave formal obeisance through the fifteenth century. Closer contact with China makes this occur more frequently and last longer, so China might be more fine with a Brunei tributary king on the island than the "savage barbarian peoples" that once occupied it.
 
What would happen if Islam was merged with Bushido? The Japanese have been known for their fanaticism without Islam, would they be even more so with it?

I also kind of think a Muslim Japan would be less likely to close itself off, since they'd have to take the pilgrimage.
 
What would happen if Islam was merged with Bushido? The Japanese have been known for their fanaticism without Islam, would they be even more so with it?

Bushido and the 20th century Militarism are not the same thing; while they're not directly analogous, Bushido is more like the European Knightly Code of Honour than anything.
 
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