WI: J. Edgar Hoover's homosexuality exposed

Meyer Lansky was rumored to have pictures, and according to that theory he used them to keep the feds off of himself and his associates.

One has to wonder why they haven't come out since then.
A prudent man would have kept multiple copies.

We don't know if Hoover was gay. But for the discussion let's assume he was and was also exposed

Exposed by whom? Would a respectable news source have published such an allegation even with cast-iron proof given the pressure that would have come with it? Also they might have considered their duty not to bring institutions into disrepute.

This leaves the muckrakers: who believes them?
 
Wasn't that another theory? That the Mafia had proof of him being gay, and that's why he didn't go after them?
If they did, I think they'd be savvy enough to know that sometimes it's better to flash the ace than play the ace.

What I considered well supported is that, for whatever reason, J. Edgar Hoover did a piss-poor job regarding organized crime.
 

youtube: "Not Broken, Not Alone" - Asexual Documentary by Rodney Uhler - 2012

As an initial poker read, I think there's some case to be made that J. Edgar was asexual to a greater or lesser degree.
 

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This thread isn't a discussion on rather Hoover was gay. This thread is a discussion on what if he was gay and the impact this would have if it became public knowledge
 
There's one theory that they knew but nobody considered them a credible source.

Meyer Lansky was rumored to have pictures, and according to that theory he used them to keep the feds off of himself and his associates.

Another theory is that it was just rumor. Someone published an unflattering biography a few years ago, and the author believed it was just rumors. According to the bio, Hoover's companion was Dorothy Lamour.

Quite possibly, I don't think it was ever proved. As far as I know the story that Hoover is gay is based on one source , that had a grudge against Hoover. He may or may not have been gay but the evidence is thin IIRC.
 

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Hoover is totally discredited and becomes a laughing stock across the world (West and East). His files, however, remain confidential and secure.

Who is his successor? Depending on who they are, depends on whether they gain access to the files.

Also, for the affect on American (and Western) society, it will depend on when Hoover is exposed. Is it before, during, or after his COINTELPRO operations?
 
If Hoover is exposed with the kind of proof that can't be handwaved away, he is ruined. Exactly how bad things go for him depends on when he is exposed - the closer to the "present" the less stigma about homosexuality, however the longer he has been running the FBI the more he has pissed a lot of people off. If he flushes his files to take others down with him, some of them may avoid disaster by claiming he has manufactured things and is striking out now that he is exposed. A lot depends on the nature of dirt he has. I wonder if any long time agents with deep loyalty to him would take revenge on him.

Anyone who is going to expose him has best make sure they present their evidence and disappear for some time until things settle down.

For comparison, look at how hard Hollywood worked to conceal the gay orientation of many stars (ex: Rock Hudson) with "marriages" and so forth. This was in an industry and community that was much more liberal than law enforcement.
 
There were three men, in his inner circle. Lou Nichols, who left to help run a legit casino, He was a great media massager.
William sullivan who turned on him, after passing the buck for cointelpro, he is the most dangerous, and Deke Delouch.
Delouch at the very time of the Hoover King feud , was cultivating Thurgood Marshall, Whitney Young, and Edward brooke, then a rising DA in mass. Deloach also served as Godfather to the son of Prominent African american publisher, RL Scott. He wanted to prove the FBI was not anti civil rights. Deke was in someway the son hoover never had. He could use a combination of rewards and information to give the old man, a dignified send off.
 
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