WI: Independent Bohemia, Moravia, and Slovakia after WW1 with Sudetenland as part of Germany

This is a bit of an interesting what-if: what if, after World War I, the Sudetenland became part of Germany along with Austria, while Bohemia, Moravia, and Slovakia each became independent states? Basically, Czechoslovakia doesn't exist.
 
Well, what is your POD? If Germany wins, it doesn't want to break up its Austro-Hungarian ally. If the Allies win, "let's have Germany as strong as possible and the West Slavs as weak and divided as possible" does not seem a very plausible attitude for them... (Anyway, the idea of a separate Moravian state has always been pretty feeble in modern times; at most, autonomist--not separatist--parties have had some ephemeral support. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_Autonomous_Democracy–Party_for_Moravia_and_Silesia)
 
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Not to mechen the borders gust dont work, the sudaten moutans are the natural bodares of chechnya whith the sudatenland as part of Germany it's not much hard to clan the flat plans beyond, not to mechen creates a much shorter and more defencable border for Germany, so why would they not take it?
 
Given the ethnic lines I'm guessing this was Wilson's idea. At minimum France is going to need her Rhine border to agree with this, and probably a forgiveness of French and British loans that will make the treaty near unpassable in Congress.

That being said, if this somehow happens eventually the German government (probably not Hitler but someone fascist) will come gunning for the Rhineland. And probably West Prussia. I can't guess the results of this second world war.
 
Given the ethnic lines I'm guessing this was Wilson's idea.

Why? Neither Wilson nor anyone else of any importance thought of the Moravians as a separate nationality. Given Wilson's sympathy with Masaryk and the fact that Slovak emigres in the US had agreed with Masaryk on a Czech-Slovak state in the Pittsburgh Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Agreement there is also no reason to think that he would have supported the separation of a Czech state from Slovakia. (Later, many Slovaks were to complain that the autonomy promised Slovakia in the Pittsburgh Agreement had not been respected, but in 1918 there was certainly strong Slovak support for a Czech-Slovak state.) As for German-Austrian unity, though Wilson was reluctant to say that Austria if it wanted could not some day join Germany, he was willing to agree to "no Anschluss except with the consent of the League Council" (in fact, he was the one who actually proposed this language) which in practice meant "no Anschluss." https://books.google.com/books?id=1eZkToUVYisC&pg=PA325

As for the Sudetenland: "With regard to the Sudetenland Wilson ignored his own principles on self-determination in favour of historical and economical factors. He referred to the Sudetenland 'which is undoubtedly predominantly German in population but which lies within the undoubted historic boundaries of Bohemia and constitutes an integral part of her industrial life. In such circumstances ethnographic lines cannot be drawn without the greatest injustice and injury.'" https://books.google.com/books?id=L7UOyPGYBkwC&pg=PA191

In short, this is a combination of ideas that were explicitly rejected by Wilson with ideas that were never even considered by him (and in the case of an independent Moravia practically anyone else). This is not even to mention what the other Allies would think of increasing Germany's power in this way...
 
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This is a bit of an interesting what-if: what if, after World War I, the Sudetenland became part of Germany along with Austria, while Bohemia, Moravia, and Slovakia each became independent states? Basically, Czechoslovakia doesn't exist.

You might have a separate Czechia and Slovakia. Even that seems unlikely, because Slovakia at the time really did not seem economically feasible on its own.
The rest, you can forget about it. Every winner would say that Germany is too powerful with the addition of all of Austria plus the Sudeten, too powerful in 1918 and too powerful later when it easily gobbles up the mini-states.
Nobody would support this save part of the Slovakians, not all of them.
 
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I've seen people write a more tied ww1 with an Austrian collapse after B-L forcing Germany to the table.

Ive never really agreed with it but others have written it.

Usually it's written with B-L being wound back and Germany picking up some ethnically German territories and losing their colonies.
 
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