WI: Hua Guofang instead of Deng Xiaoping

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Whiteshore, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    While most people know that after Mao Zedong died in 1976, there was a brief power struggle which Deng Xiaoping won, few know that he was not Mao's immediate successor. Instead, one Hua Guofang was the immediate successor of Chairman Mao and was the one who brought down the Gang of Four before being forced out of power by Deng Xiaoping, but what if he had won the post-Mao power struggle? What does a China ruled by Hua Guofang instead of Deng Xiaoping look like?
     
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    If he won then it'd be a continuation of Maoist principles and Communist-line development. Hua was said to emulate Mao a lot in speeches and mannerisms after gaining power, along with trying to use the same propaganda machine to rev up popularity.
     
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  3. Joseph890 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with that immensely Hua Attempted to make Modest reforms of the country when he was in power and during the short Time He was leader of China he tried to reverse the excesses of the cultural revolution the reason why he was overthrown was that he would not give up on continuing the Maoist party line just believed they should moderate it extensively not give it up completely
     
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  4. zeppelinair これ以上の詳細は略する

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    which is exactly what I meant, he continued the pre-76 party line. while Deng went in a completely different route.
     
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  5. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    What would the foreign policy of a Hua Guofang-ruled PRC be, then?
     
  6. RousseauX Well-Known Member

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    Hua would have being heavily controlled by the party old guard which otl composed of the Chinese leadership during the Deng era. Hua did not have the prestige nor clout with the army, nor ideas of his own to rule the country. Deng had all three, he was always recognized as the most capable pragmatic administrator even by Mao, he was a military commander who saw battle in the wars, and he had a vision to rebuild the country after the cultural revolution.

    So it would have been a moderate reformist leadership, there wouldn't have being a period of political liberalization in the 80s, probably some kind of economic reforms would have being made though.
     
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  7. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    What about Hua's foreign policy then? How would it differ from Deng's?
     
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    Apart from alleged Mao's last will note, Hua lack any real power base at PLA, even in a Deng died early TL (as I said below in another TL discussion), he would be brushed aside by cabal of Long March cadres.

     
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  9. RousseauX Well-Known Member

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    Essentially identical I think

    The basis of Chinese foreign policy in the Deng era was a continuation of the policies of the Mao era: detente with the US, opposition to the USSR and Vietnam until the late 1980s right around the time when the USSR started to collapse

    A Hua "administration" would not have differed greatly in this, they -might- have gone after Vietnam harder in 1979 though, which could mean the PLA gets even more a bloody nose
     
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  10. GSD310 Well-Known Member

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    I agree the most with this.

    The real question for me is, would Hua ever become his own man as Chairman? The Mao generation were in their 80s at the time Hua become Chairman. Certainly after a decade they would either have lost their influence, retired or have died.
     
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  11. Hrvatskiwi Chakravatin Qayan of the Great Ulus

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    I was under the impression that Hua Guofeng was pursuing normalisation talks with the Soviets, or at least, his foreign policy apparatus was.
     
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  12. samcster94 Well-Known Member

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    Well, that'd butterfly away China as a major economic power.
     
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  13. raharris1973 Well-Known Member

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    I was under the impression that Hua was even more anti-Soviet than Deng was.