So what if the revolution of 1956 in Hungary would have been actually a well-outplanned coup of the Hungarian conservative forces backed by Spain and Portugal? How could things play out? Is there any chance to the coup succeding? If yes, what could be the further consquences? PLease tell me what you think!
 
The Soviets would take whatever measures are necessary to keep that from happening. They'll bend over backwards if they have to. The only way to remove communism from an Eastern Bloc state is to defeat the USSR, which means starting WW III and nobody in their right mind is going to do that for Hungary's sake. They'll go no further than diplomatic protests no matter how brutal the Soviets get.
 
So what if the revolution of 1956 in Hungary would have been actually a well-outplanned coup of the Hungarian conservative forces backed by Spain and Portugal? How could things play out? Is there any chance to the coup succeding? If yes, what could be the further consquences? PLease tell me what you think!
If it was indeed Horthyist putsch I guess Soviets could without worries they gonna join Hungarian rebels ask their Romanian and Czechoslovak allies to sent some troops to help to put down fascist Uprising. Maybe even Yugoslavians would offer brotherly help despite disputes with Soviets. Horthy was popular in these countries as thorn in ass.
 
I'd actually think this would be more plausible if the revolution established some sort of neutral democracy (because let's assume the Soviets are super-distracted with something else and are going through an internal crisis too, just to add fuel to the fire), and then all the Horthyist officers and Arrow Cross boys came out of the woodwork and made the coup happen. That would lead to a rather interesting situation... but it'd require a ~1945 POD. The old Horthyist military command was purged very thoroughly after the war (everyone who didn't actively sabotage the old regime somehow was removed at the very least, and the new authorities required very little evidence to imprison officers for anti-state activity), and there were no Horthyists left in the military by 1956. There were Horthyists trying to conduct espionage, who were mostly based in Austria and cooperated with various Western intelligence agencies, such as the kopjások ("lancers") and the MHBK ("Alliance of Hungarian Brothers-in-arms", translated loosely), but they never accomplished much and many of their members in Hungary were arrested due to the work of double agents. There was nobody who could have done this in 1956 IOTL.
 

CaliGuy

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So what if the revolution of 1956 in Hungary would have been actually a well-outplanned coup of the Hungarian conservative forces backed by Spain and Portugal? How could things play out? Is there any chance to the coup succeding? If yes, what could be the further consquences? PLease tell me what you think!
The Hungarians might have a better shot at this if they wait until the early 1980s; after all, when Poland was in crisis during this time, the Soviet Union was unwilling to intervene to save Poland's Communist government if push came to shove.
 
The Hungarians might have a better shot at this if they wait until the early 1980s; after all, when Poland was in crisis during this time, the Soviet Union was unwilling to intervene to save Poland's Communist government if push came to shove.

This is something I have wondered about. A pan eastern European uprising is an interesting idea. Particularly in the 1950s and 60s, but one in the 80s makes the most sense
 

CaliGuy

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This is something I have wondered about. A pan eastern European uprising is an interesting idea. Particularly in the 1950s and 60s, but one in the 80s makes the most sense
We did have a Pan-Eastern European uprising in the late 1980s in our TL; however, Yes, moving it back 5 to 10 years would certainly be interesting.
 
We did have a Pan-Eastern European uprising in the late 1980s in our TL; however, Yes, moving it back 5 to 10 years would certainly be interesting.

That would be mess, as in Tiananmen writ large. Moscow will not let the Warsaw Pact go. The reason they didn't intervene in Poland was two-fold: 1) they were stuck in Afghanistan, and 2) the Polish regime proved to be able to handle the crisis by itself. If there are uprisings across the Warsaw Pact, the Soviets will prioritize that and withdraw from Afghanistan if need be. It would be interesting indeed, in the Chinese sense of the word...
 
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