WI: Hitlerism

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by FranzAncheNo, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. FranzAncheNo Citizen of the Republic of Pistoia

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    This is not pro-Nazi propaganda. If you think that this is the aim of the post, let me tell you that you're wrong.

    I don't think anybody played this card before on this website.
    What if an Adolf Hitler based religion develops post-War?
    I don't mean just Neo-Nazism, but something with supernatural references, ordained priests and sacred texts that tries to make him looking like a god or a chosen man sent by a(the) god(s).
     
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  3. FranzAncheNo Citizen of the Republic of Pistoia

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    Maybe if this woman:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi
    Gets control of India somehow she could probably set up some sort of cult. Don't know how she could get anywhere close to power though
     
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  5. overoceans Well-Known Member

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    Hitler's image was somewhat tainted by the time World War II ended, so it might be hard to get people worshiping him on a mass scale.
     
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  6. Johnrankins Well-Known Member

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    The only way I see this even remotely working (and even then it is a LONG shot) is he dies just after Munich. If he dies at that point he dies after "he reunited the German people" and before WW2. This goes against the OP as it says post-war but this is the closest I can get to it.
     
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  7. The Wooksta! Well-Known Member

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    Not quite religious but a friend of mine has a tale about being on a trip in France or somewhere else on the continent and a guide mentioned that Hitler had visited the same place*. Cue one of the Germans on the same tour remarking in a whispered, almost reverent, tone "The Fuhrer was here?"

    *Quite possibly a steel works as Chris was quite well placed within British Steel.
     
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  8. John Roscommon Well-Known Member

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    How about something like a Mystery Religion with esoteric rituals for an exclusive set of followers, maybe launching off of the mystical weirdness the Thulians and others cobbled together?
     
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  9. Lalli Well-Known Member

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    Probably only way is that Hitler manages to win the war. It would be difficult getting people worship anyone loser.
     
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  10. FranzAncheNo Citizen of the Republic of Pistoia

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    Very interesting.
    As long as it maintains a common structure and doctrine it's okay (Otherwise it wouldn't be different from OTL's Esoteric Nazism.).
    How long would it remain secret to the world?
    Is there at least one country that can allow Hitlerian proselytizing?
     
  11. FranzAncheNo Citizen of the Republic of Pistoia

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    I'm sorry, might I ask how long ago this event takes place?
    It could become well-known in an ATL and be regarded as the first Hitlerian coming out.
     
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    The line between loser and martyr is sometimes more blurry than we would like to admit, and sometimes losing is as convenient as winning. All that's needed is a narrative of martyrdom and some nebulous long term thingy...

    Also on a less serious note, Jesus getting nailed to a cross didn't prevent Christianity from becoming the dominant religion of the Western hemisphere, heck, it probably made it possible in the first place.

    Edit: obviously I'm not comparing Hitler to Jesus morally or ethically, but rather pointing out that mere triumphs in the material world isn't the end all be all as far as religion is concerned.
     
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  13. Stenz Don't judge the past by the standards of today... Monthly Donor

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    Understatement of the century.

    The WAllies were heavy on the old denazification, so a religion dedicated to a mass-murdering, spit-flecked lunatic might be a tough one to get going.

    By the time the WAllies left control over to the West Germans, nazis weren’t exactly en vogue in Germany. This probably means you’d have to wait until at least the mid-80s until it gets going. This means the younger generation would have to take the lead, lest it is ‘tainted’ by association with elderly nazis.
     
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  14. FranzAncheNo Citizen of the Republic of Pistoia

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    Or the religion can form before and remain as secret as possible till the next generation is ""ready"".
     
  15. GDIS Pathe Well-Known Member

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    Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead