WI: Hitler killed in WW1

As we all know, Adolf Hitler served in the German army on the Western front during WW1.

So, how would history have changed/gone if he had been killed during that time?

Without him, the Nazi Party would never rise to power, so what other political party would've taken advantage of the Great Depression and risen to (or even remained in) power?

What would this ATL Germany look like?

And finally, what would the eventual WW2 look like? Would it be fought exclusively in the Pacific, in the form of the Second Sino-Japanese War, or would Germany seek revenge on the Allies? If so, would it win? If not, would Stalin have eventually enacted a Red Alert Scenario?

(BTW, he was in so many near-death experiences during WW1, it's almost ASB to see him surviving with the luck he had! I'm even thinking I should make a list of possible PODs for all the times he could've been killed)
 
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I, like most people with an opinion on this. think the Communists benefit from Hitler's absence.
 
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I, like most people with an opinion on this. think the Communists benefit from Hitler's absence.

Well, the communists in Germany were despised by every other political party, so personally, I'd say it would be very unlikely that Thalmann would ever become chancellor, or anyone else from the communists for that matter.
 
I think a large group of OTL Nazi voters vote Communist instead. They were looking for an extreme solution.

They may get in by popular vote, but remember that the President appointed the Chancellor, so it's very unlikely that either Ebert or Hugenburg would've appointed Thalmann (or any other communist party leader) chancellor.
 
I think Hitler's absence would primarily benefit conservatives and the army. In the absence of a charismatic Volkisch politician, isn't it probable that there would have eventually been a garden-variety military coup? Germany might have gone the way of Franco's Spain, with a bunch of generals and assorted nationalists banding together to overthrow the republic.
 
I think hollis is spot on. A perceived communist threat after a red dominated popular front election sparks a military, possibly royalist, coup.
 

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I think Dietrich Echkart and Alfred Rosenberg and Julius Streciher would have found some other war hero who could speak to fill Hitler's role. If there's one thing I've learned as a background actor, the show must go on and if one actor won't fill the part, another actor can and must be found. When the Nazi Party started in 1920, Hitler was just a principal actor. Dietrich Eckhart was the Casting Director.:rolleyes:
 
I think Dietrich Echkart and Alfred Rosenberg and Julius Streciher would have found some other war hero who could speak to fill Hitler's role. If there's one thing I've learned as a background actor, the show must go on and if one actor won't fill the part, another actor can and must be found. When the Nazi Party started in 1920, Hitler was just a principal actor. Dietrich Eckhart was the Casting Director.:rolleyes:

Hmm. Never thought of that. Mind you, I always thought the Goering would end up the leader of the DNVP, being a war hero of WW1.
 
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Hitler dying would not have changed the fact that 1. Germany would have lost WW1, 2. they would have had to pay massive repatrations, 3. Germany would have still been pissed 4. they would have gone thru a horrible depression.

All of which would have pointed to Germany, and many others in the world, looking for a savior.
 
There several moments were Hitler almost died.
October 1914, with The Battle of Ypres. Here 40,000 germans died, from message runner unit with 250 men only 42 survivors including Hitler.
On 5. Oktober 1916, during Battle of Somme, Hitler his hit by shell splinters in left femoral (why not the femoral artery ?)
On 15 October 1918, Hitler survives a mustard gas attack and was temporarily blinded, (dam, little bit more gas and bye bye Hitler...)

So No Hitler, what makes his friends after WW1?

No NSDAP, only the bavarian the "Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" (DAP), German Workers' Party. one of zillion political parties who gush up after collapse of German Empire.
DAP was obscure Party headed by Anton Drexler, member of more obscure occultist Thule Society (like Rudolf Hess). DAP meeting were in back corner of Munich beer gardens.

Ernst Röhm makes his trip to Bolivia and become high rank officer in Bolivia Military, even become Bolivia citizen.
Heinrich Himmler would stay in Bund Artam e. V. that's Germanic Nationalist pathfinder group, yes SS-Himmler as Scout Leader!
Herman Göring stay in Munich to take political science at the university and wrote his doctoral thesis on German politics
Joseph Goebbels a tabloid press journalist with taste on Crimes, hate and antisemitism.

and German politic ?
already mention above there were zillion political parties in Weimar republic. alone in parliament (Reichstag) were up to 16 political parties.
the Left fraction were heavy divide alone the social-democrats were some times in Reichstag, represented by three parties !
Communism was popular under workers in Weimar republic, but got no support by Stalin of USSR. so the German communist group face like OTL a member lost over time.
While he extreme Right movement had similar problems because no Hitler and NSDAP.

The centrum Parties gain more control and alliance with paramilitary groups like Stahlhelm (League of Frontline Soldiers) could take control over Weimar republic.
with there struggle against communist, Social Democracy, the "mercantilism of the Jews" and the general liberal democratic worldview,
and introduce the politics of a renewed German expansion to the East so called "Greater Germanic Reich". (restore the Old German Empire border + Poland and Austria)
termination of Versailles treaty (Weimar Republic payment to winners of WW1) and restoration of monarchy.
This will get wide supports by the German population

in end the German Kingdom will start World War Two by invading Poland and attack France over Belgium.
but this World War two will be less atrociously and "more humane" as the original one under Hitler and his SS henchman.
 
What about during the Great Depression? One of the main reasons the Nazi party did so well in the 1930 election is because it appealed to the majority of the population, which included the unemployed and the working-class.

One of the reasons the DNVP lost to the NSDAP is because it wasn't as populist as the latter. With the Nazi party butterflied away, could we see a DNVP-DVP coalition rise to power?One of the reasons the DNVP lost to the NSDAP is because it wasn't as populist as the latter.
 
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