WI - Hitler is born in Africa?

What is limitless probabilities? Surely that phrase is contradictory.

What he's trying to say is that with Hitler born in say Namibia, it would alter all of history, due to to butterflies. In my opinion with a POD in what, 1889, you might butterfly World War One as we know it. Also from what I know most Germans who were in the colonies, ended up fighting in Africa. So that would change things. Also if he's from Namibia, whats stopping him from staying? Its under South African control but that doesn't mean that all the Germans were expelled. For instance, there are still like 30,000 Germans in Namibia.
 
You don't get it.

Yes, there is a possibility that Hitler decides to go to Germany and he decides to join the army and he fights on the western front. There's also a chance he doesn't. There's also a chance he does, but he fights on the eastern front. There's a chance he does, but he doesn't see action. There's a chance he goes to Austria and takes part in the occupation of Serbia. There's a chance he moves to god-damned Tsingtao for a bit of exotic flavour and winds up in a Japanese war prison.

There's a chance WWI doesn't even happen because of knock-on effects of this one event, but believe it or not I'm being conservative.

The point is, by having him born in Africa instead of Austria, you are creating limitless probabilities, so much so that the odds of things turning out the same are so miniscule they might as well not even be considered.

Well said...
 

Jack1971

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In my opinion with a POD in what, 1889, you might butterfly World War One as we know it.
Now we’re suggesting moving Hitler’s place of birth alters World War One, where Corporal Hitler, IMO has little impact.

Okay, I’m tapping out of this one.
 
Now we’re suggesting moving Hitler’s place of birth alters World War One, where Corporal Hitler, IMO has little impact.

Okay, I’m tapping out of this one.

It only takes one thing to cause a butterfly thats the whole point of the effect. I'll just post the famous poem

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
 
Possible Adolf Hitlers:
Adolf Hitler (1889-1892) - young German dies of Malaria.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Author of famous series of books about German-African explorer.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1975) - a South African soldier and statesman. In South African politics, he was a member of the liberal South African party and then the United Party from 1929 to 1966 and a member of Jan Smuts' cabinet from 1939 to 1945, during which time, he was minister of Native Affairs.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1987) - known commonly as Pope Victor IV, after raising from a Roman Catholic bishop, to cardinal, he would be the first pope born in Africa since the third Berber pope of 496. He took the name Victor IV, not accounting for either Antipope Victor IV of 1138 or Antipope Victor IV of 1159.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1959) - renowened painter of African scenery and lifestyles.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1916) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, nothing of note.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1917) - German Lieutenant fighting in the African theatre, awarded posthumously, the Iron Cross, for bravely saving his squad from British attack.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1913) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, first soldier to die in Africa during the Great War.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Leader of the National Socialist Party, a party that was anti-imperial and anti-capital, supported by Mikhail Tukhachevsky’s Soviet Union, creating the first and largest Communist bloc in Africa.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1963) - stage and film actor, renowned for his oratory skills.

Adolf Hitler (1889-2008) supercentenarian, the last surviving person verified as born in 1889.
 
Possible Adolf Hitlers:
Adolf Hitler (1889-1892) - young German dies of Malaria.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Author of famous series of books about German-African explorer.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1975) - a South African soldier and statesman. In South African politics, he was a member of the liberal South African party and then the United Party from 1929 to 1966 and a member of Jan Smuts' cabinet from 1939 to 1945, during which time, he was minister of Native Affairs.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1987) - known commonly as Pope Victor IV, after raising from a Roman Catholic bishop, to cardinal, he would be the first pope born in Africa since the third Berber pope of 496. He took the name Victor IV, not accounting for either Antipope Victor IV of 1138 or Antipope Victor IV of 1159.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1959) - renowened painter of African scenery and lifestyles.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1916) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, nothing of note.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1917) - German Lieutenant fighting in the African theatre, awarded posthumously, the Iron Cross, for bravely saving his squad from British attack.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1913) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, first soldier to die in Africa during the Great War.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Leader of the National Socialist Party, a party that was anti-imperial and anti-capital, supported by Mikhail Tukhachevsky’s Soviet Union, creating the first and largest Communist bloc in Africa.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1963) - stage and film actor, renowned for his oratory skills.

Adolf Hitler (1889-2008) supercentenarian, the last surviving person verified as born in 1889.

what about the second one AND eleventh
 
Possible Adolf Hitlers:
Adolf Hitler (1889-1892) - young German dies of Malaria.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Author of famous series of books about German-African explorer.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1975) - a South African soldier and statesman. In South African politics, he was a member of the liberal South African party and then the United Party from 1929 to 1966 and a member of Jan Smuts' cabinet from 1939 to 1945, during which time, he was minister of Native Affairs.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1987) - known commonly as Pope Victor IV, after raising from a Roman Catholic bishop, to cardinal, he would be the first pope born in Africa since the third Berber pope of 496. He took the name Victor IV, not accounting for either Antipope Victor IV of 1138 or Antipope Victor IV of 1159.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1959) - renowened painter of African scenery and lifestyles.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1916) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, nothing of note.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1917) - German Lieutenant fighting in the African theatre, awarded posthumously, the Iron Cross, for bravely saving his squad from British attack.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1913) - German soldier fighting in the African theatre, first soldier to die in Africa during the Great War.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1957) - Leader of the National Socialist Party, a party that was anti-imperial and anti-capital, supported by Mikhail Tukhachevsky’s Soviet Union, creating the first and largest Communist bloc in Africa.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1963) - stage and film actor, renowned for his oratory skills.

Adolf Hitler (1889-2008) supercentenarian, the last surviving person verified as born in 1889.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1980), known as the "Dancing Hitler" to distinguish him from his younger brother, the popular singer Leo Hitler (1896-1967), renowned interpretive dancer who revolutionized the genre along with his mentor and on-and-off lover Isadora Duncan. Their villa in Wannsee was a popular salon for Berlin's artistic community in the 1920s and 30s.
 
what about the second one AND eleventh
You can pick and choose any, all or none of them.

Adolf Hitler (1889-1980), known as the "Dancing Hitler" to distinguish him from his younger brother, the popular singer Leo Hitler (1896-1967), renowned interpretive dancer who revolutionized the genre along with his mentor and on-and-off lover Isadora Duncan. Their villa in Wannsee was a popular salon for Berlin's artistic community in the 1920s and 30s.
Nice.
 
It only takes one thing to cause a butterfly thats the whole point of the effect. I'll just post the famous poem

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

And the moment you could construct such a logical chain to demonstrate how Hitler's alteration would cause the change in the timeline, than this is a valid comparission. The thing is though a single butterfly flap is only so powerful, and isen't going to topple a dense enough object.
 
Put it this way, if you were born somewhere completely different, you wouldnt be the person you are today. All your freinds are different, maybe the values you hold etc. Same for Hitler, hes a totally different person, sure maybe he makes his way back to Germany and joins WW1 etc or maybe he gets eaten by a lion as a child and never makes it there, the point is "who knows?"
 
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