WI: Hitler dies in Beer Hall Putsch, now what?

Okay, first of all, sorry for the generic looking title.

Second of all, if Hitler, and let's say, a few other key NSDAP leaders die in the Beer Hall Putsch, does the Bavarian-based NSDAP collapse?

If so, would it be possible for this party to secede from the Weimar Republic, Anschluss Austria and Hungary, and occupy Czechoslovakia?

In turn, would that secession make it possible for this party to take NSDAP's place in making a nationalistic Germany without the extreme racial goals?

Or would my above mentioned speculation be too damn ASB for it to even work?
 
I can't see a Roman Catholic party which was interested in Bavarian separatism being very popular with the Prussians :p.
 
Ahh, I have misinterpreted your OP. Well, if Bavaria seceded, I don't think they would have the strength or the popularity in Austria to Anschluss, which makes an occupation of Czechoslovakia impossible.

Not even if the majority of Austria's population is Catholic?
 
What about the other party creating a nationalist Germany in the Nazi's place?

This is more plausible, however I'm not sure which candidate they would support that would take all the risks that Hitler did. Though I can see a conservative candidate bring more interested in taking back Danzig and Posen from Poland before trying an Anschluss or takeover of the Sudetenland.
 
This is more plausible, however I'm not sure which candidate they would support that would take all the risks that Hitler did. Though I can see a conservative candidate bring more interested in taking back Danzig and Posen from Poland before trying an Anschluss or takeover of the Sudetenland.

I was about to mention something similar. I cannot find the actual thread that it was in, I remember someone mentioning a while back that the North-German (Prussian) conservatives were not particularly interested in pan-Germanism per se, but wished to restore the borders of the old Kaiserreich, with an especial focus on the East.
 
Why does another far right party take power in Germany in absence of the Nazis? I feel like this is an assumption people always have that doesn't necessarily bear out in considering the context of what brought the nazis to power. And why on earth does Bavaria secede if nationalists take over Germany itself? When the complaint of the Bavarian parties would almost certainly be molified by a rightist government in Germany.
 
Why does another far right party take power in Germany in absence of the Nazis? I feel like this is an assumption people always have that doesn't necessarily bear out in considering the context of what brought the nazis to power. And why on earth does Bavaria secede if nationalists take over Germany itself? When the complaint of the Bavarian parties would almost certainly be molified by a rightist government in Germany.

If the coup in Bavaria had gone along the lines laid out by Gustav Ritter Von Kahr and his triumvirate of Reichswehr and Bavarian State Police, Bavaria would have declared independence, after a coup in Berlin, liberating Germany from a communist or Socialist government and giving power back to the right.
 
Why does another far right party take power in Germany in absence of the Nazis? I feel like this is an assumption people always have that doesn't necessarily bear out in considering the context of what brought the nazis to power. And why on earth does Bavaria secede if nationalists take over Germany itself? When the complaint of the Bavarian parties would almost certainly be molified by a rightist government in Germany.
Totally agree with Eliphas. Extreme right-wing parties were, for a very long time, not the most likely candidates for a takeover of power. If Hitler et al. had been killed in the Beer Hall Putsch, nothing much would have changed throughout the 1920s, as the Nazis were an irrelevant marginal force much of the time.
When the 1929 economic crisis impacts and there is no charismatic synthesis of economic populism and resentment-laden nationalism around, then nationalism will retain its ultra-conservative, monarchy-nostalgic flavour, while economic populism will remain a monopoly of the left.
Come 1932-34, there are two possible exits:
1) an able politician from among the democratic parties (like a combination of Scheidemann and Stresemann in the earlier years of the republic) - for plausibility reasons perhaps someone who IOTL was assassinated by right-wing extremists in the 1920s - manages to achieve a deal which suspends the reparations and begins a moderate turn away from austerity and towards a New Deal -> the republic stabilises and normalises
2) some communist leaders ignore Moscow`s orders and join a Popular Front coalition, which may either march through with their reforms (like Leon Blum in France) or be confronted with a right-wing coup and civil war (like in Spain).
 
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