What if the United States Presidential Elections of 2008 or 2012 came down between the two New York heavyweights, Former Governor George Pataki and Senator (2008) or Incumbent President (2012) Hillary Clinton? For Pataki to win the nomination in 2008, would he have to drift to the right as John McCain had in OTL? It would be hard for him to defeat McCain in 2008 because McCain made a name for himself in 2000. I think for him to win the 2012 nomination, Mitt Romney has to be the nominee to lose to Clinton in 2008, causing a vaccuum in Establishment frontrunners. What do you say? I think a victory in New Hampshire is necessary for momentum.
 
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