WI: Henry, Duke of Cornwall, Firstborn of Henry VIII, Survives?

I'm not quite sure actually. There's quite a bit more prestige in her marrying the Dauphin and future King of France than the King of Scots. It seems like Henry and Catherine wanted a more prestigious match for their daughter. First with the Holy Roman Emperor and then with the Dauphin. If the Dauphin is betrothed to someone else then it's possible that they'll settle for her cousin, the King of Scotland. But that would require finding a suitable bride for the Dauphin.

Yeah, that's definitely true. TTL's Mary won't be the same as OTL's Mary.
 
That or he'll take more fully to his titles of Defender of the Faith and Most Christian King and reject the original calls for reform. Henry VIII can go either way really.
Henry VIII didnt have the title of Most Christian King it was the exclusive title of the King of France in the same way that Defender of the Faith was that of the King of England.
 
On the subject of Spanish infantas, Karl V might decide that he needs to get married sooner rather than later, and with a POD in 1511, he might marry Mary Tudor, instead oher marrying the king of France (in fact, he was still willing to marry her after Louis had died, so she married Brandon to prevent it). If she gives him a son around the time of her eldest son (1516/1517), a match between Philip* and Mary Jnr might be a-go. Or he might marry Isabel a lot earlier. Mary isn't as much of a prize if she has a surviving brother, so Isabel's gigantic dowry might sway him more. (And yes, I know the Burgundian Estates, the Spanish Cortes and the Imperial Reichstag all wanted him to marry different girls. Burgundy and Spain wanted Tudor; Spain was willing to settle for Portugal if they couldn't get England; and the Reichstag wanted anybody but those two - Anne of Bohemia was their preferred choice AFAIK)

As to the Papal title that Henry got, I was under the impression that he received 'Most Christian King, Defender of the Faith' after he published a tract on Luther, damning him and praising the pope, but it was yanked with his shenanigans with the King's Great Matter, and re-granted to François?
 
On the subject of Spanish infantas, Karl V might decide that he needs to get married sooner rather than later, and with a POD in 1511, he might marry Mary Tudor, instead oher marrying the king of France (in fact, he was still willing to marry her after Louis had died, so she married Brandon to prevent it). If she gives him a son around the time of her eldest son (1516/1517), a match between Philip* and Mary Jnr might be a-go. Or he might marry Isabel a lot earlier. Mary isn't as much of a prize if she has a surviving brother, so Isabel's gigantic dowry might sway him more. (And yes, I know the Burgundian Estates, the Spanish Cortes and the Imperial Reichstag all wanted him to marry different girls. Burgundy and Spain wanted Tudor; Spain was willing to settle for Portugal if they couldn't get England; and the Reichstag wanted anybody but those two - Anne of Bohemia was their preferred choice AFAIK)

As to the Papal title that Henry got, I was under the impression that he received 'Most Christian King, Defender of the Faith' after he published a tract on Luther, damning him and praising the pope, but it was yanked with his shenanigans with the King's Great Matter, and re-granted to François?
He legaly never received as the papal bull was never issued so if he claimed it it could be in is capacity as king of France but thats of dubious legality as it was given to Charles VI and VII and confirmed for Louis XI and his heir.
 
How will his successes in France to? Will he still get royally pissed at having so many invasions to help the Emperor, only for him to refuse to help give Henry the French throne once he captured the French King? Admittedly, having France and England unified (especially as Henry hadnt participated in that particular invasion until then) would not be in his interests. Still, the possibility of having a Habsburg wife for the son of Henry would make Henry's grandkids three-fourths of that dynasty. Sure, it wouldn't have the same last name, but it might be considered almost a side ranch at that point.
 
Henry VIII didnt have the title of Most Christian King it was the exclusive title of the King of France in the same way that Defender of the Faith was that of the King of England.
Keep in mind, Defender in the Fate was not explictly tied to the King of England, to my knowlegde. Well, not by the Pope. Henry was personally given the title, but he kept it after the break.
 

Teejay

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Henry VIII's first son, born on January 1st 1511, unlike so many of his other children, was born healthy and seemed to be sure to survive. However, he died of unknown causes age 53 days, to the great shock and grief of his parents and the nation. What would have happened if he had lived to adulthood? How would Henry's personality and policies have been impacted? Most obviously, would Henry have broken with Rome if Catherine had sired a surviving son?

With a son and heir, Henry VIII remains a reasonably faithful husband to Queen Catherine and a devout Catholic. Henry IX would be devout Catholic as well, this would mean England would remain a Catholic Country. Although there would be a small Protestant minority called Lollard's concentrated in London and the South East.

Henry IX could very well marry Madeleine of Valois. She was a daughter of King Francis I, any descendants of such a union could argue that they have a reasonable claim to the French throne. Especially if say a son of Henry IX married either Elisabeth of Valois (1545-1568) or Claude of France (1547-1575). Because they were the older sisters of Margaret who married Henry IV.

Princess Mary would probably marry James V of Scotland, if they have manage to have a surviving male heir. Scotland remains a Catholic nation as well, the Scottish Reformation would have never happened the way it did.

A Catholic England would affect the outcomes of both the French Wars of Religion and Dutch Revolt. Especially if England is a Catholic country, being allied with Spain. For example I can see England allying itself with the French Catholic League and not to mention helping Spain suppress the Dutch revolt.
 
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