WI: Hedwig of Zagan and Casimir of Slupsk

krieger

Banned
Perhaps giving Casimir III, a short lived son with Adelaide of Hesse in 1350's that could be possible?

Yes, but still her parents have a little interest in marrying her to Casimir of Słupsk. I think that if Casimir III and Louis died at the same time (for example around 1365), then Hedwig would still marry a King of Poland, Casimir of Słupsk.
 
Yes, but still her parents have a little interest in marrying her to Casimir of Słupsk. I think that if Casimir III and Louis died at the same time (for example around 1365), then Hedwig would still marry a King of Poland, Casimir of Słupsk.


Perhaps if Emperor Charles IV dies without sons while his daughter Margaret, Queen of Hungary survive which causes Louis to have a claim to Bohemia which would force the nobles to accept Slupsk as the heir to Casimir III, before the death of Casimir III.
 

krieger

Banned
Perhaps if Emperor Charles IV dies without sons while his daughter Margaret, Queen of Hungary survive which causes Louis to have a claim to Bohemia which would force the nobles to accept Slupsk as the heir to Casimir III, before the death of Casimir III.

Charles of Luxembourg had a brother (and said brother managed to have sons) so no Bohemia for Louis I. And why claim to Bohemia is making Louis unable to seize Poland? Better kill him.
 

krieger

Banned
I think marrying Elizabeth of Pomerania to Albert III, duke of Austria and Casimir of Slupsk marries the Hedwig of Sagan but Louis I dies in early 1360's that would be better POD, but that would mean Charles IV needs to shop for a new wife..and Wenceslaus is going to marry Elizabeth of Slavonia to claim Hungary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Slavonia

@Jan Olbracht
But there is little to gain from marrying Elizabeth of Pomerania to Albert III. The only candidate, who could surpass Charles IV as a husband of EoP would be Jogaila (if he was born circa 1352). Also there are other male Angevins around, so lords 9f Hungary would rather choose someone from Naples to be a husband of their Queen.
 
But there is little to gain from marrying Elizabeth of Pomerania to Albert III. The only candidate, who could surpass Charles IV as a husband of EoP would be Jogaila (if he was born circa 1352). Also there are other male Angevins around, so lords 9f Hungary would rather choose someone from Naples to be a husband of their Queen.
The main reason why Charles IV married Elizabeth of Pomerania is to prevent a Polish-Habsburg alliance so if Anna of Swidnica survives we can have Elizabeth of Pomerania married to a Habsburg and have Casimir of Slupsk married to Hedwig of Sagan, the Angevin contemporary of Elizabeth of Pomerania would be Charles III of Naples..so instead we can have Charles III of Naples and Hungary marry Elizabeth of Pomerania and his OTL wife marries to somebody else.

Elizabeth of Pomerania would be interesting as Casimir III could support Charles III against the OTL Elizabeth of Taranto who would be under Bohemian custody.
 

krieger

Banned
The main reason why Charles IV married Elizabeth of Pomerania is to prevent a Polish-Habsburg alliance so if Anna of Swidnica survives we can have Elizabeth of Pomerania married to a Habsburg and have Casimir of Slupsk married to Hedwig of Sagan, the Angevin contemporary of Elizabeth of Pomerania would be Charles III of Naples..so instead we can have Charles III of Naples and Hungary marry Elizabeth of Pomerania and his OTL wife marries to somebody else.
But without Hungary it is only a alliance of two dwarfs, unable to damage Bohemia in any possible way. Charles III thing would definitely be interesting, but I seriously doubt if he would agree to such a marriage. Maybe if Joanna I didn't ascend to the throne of Naples and Charles had no chances of getting it.
 
But without Hungary it is only a alliance of two dwarfs, unable to damage Bohemia in any possible way. Charles III thing would definitely be interesting, but I seriously doubt if he would agree to such a marriage. Maybe if Joanna I didn't ascend to the throne of Naples and Charles had no chances of getting it.
It is also possible for Charles III can marry the OTL Elizabeth of Taranto, the Heiress of Louis I while Elizabeth of Pomerania marries into the Habsburgs while the Holy Roman Empress, Anna of Swidnica survives..

Elizabeth can marry Jogaila if the records of his birth in 1350's is correct.
 

krieger

Banned
It is also possible for Charles III can marry the OTL Elizabeth of Taranto, the Heiress of Louis I while Elizabeth of Pomerania marries into the Habsburgs while the Holy Roman Empress, Anna of Swidnica survives..
It's definitely more probable, but I don't see Habsburgs getting EoP, because she would be too valuable for Austrian archduke. With Anna of Świdnica surviving, EoP could be married of to some Wittelsbach.
 
It's definitely more probable, but I don't see Habsburgs getting EoP, because she would be too valuable for Austrian archduke. With Anna of Świdnica surviving, EoP could be married of to some Wittelsbach.
As I remember, Casimir III married one of her aunts to a Wittelsbach earlier already.
 

krieger

Banned
As I remember, Casimir III married one of her aunts to a Wittelsbach earlier already.
Yes, but she was already dead at that time. Only scenario in which Albert III gets EoP is the scenario in which Charles IV agrees to this marriage (and Albert III was betrothed to Elizabeth of Slavonia earlier, and he broke this betrothal because of Charles IV influence).
 
Yes, but she was already dead at that time. Only scenario in which Albert III gets EoP is the scenario in which Charles IV agrees to this marriage (and Albert III was betrothed to Elizabeth of Slavonia earlier, and he broke this betrothal because of Charles IV influence).
Stephen III can marry Elizabeth of Pomerania in this scenario instead of Taddea Visconti butterflying the wife of Charles the Mad...and Albert III, Wenceslaus and Charles of Durazzo would battle for the hand of Elizabeth of Slavonia..
 

krieger

Banned
Stephen III can marry Elizabeth of Pomerania in this scenario instead of Taddea Visconti butterflying the wife of Charles the Mad...and Albert III, Wenceslaus and Charles of Durazzo would battle for the hand of Elizabeth of Slavonia..
Too much butterflies, fully describing the consequences would require writing something as large as The Silver Knight.
 
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