WI: Greek revolution centered on Constantinople and Thrace instead of Morea and Athens

Fighting two revolts in different regions of the empire wouldn't impact Ottoman performance at all?

Not really. They had to deal with Janissary Revolts in 1807-1808 while also fighting the Russians while also fighting the Serb Rebels. They dealt with two of the three problems (guess which one they could not deal with lol). A Greek Rebellion near the Capital is not a threat if it does not last.

It has effects on Ottoman Performance but they can crush it and move further to Morea. Or... they just ask Mehmed Ali to deal with Morea like OTL but earlier.
 
Here is a key issue. By the early 1800s the ability of the Ottoman central government/bureaucracy to enforce it's edicts beyond the capital and a few close cities like Selanik was climbing up from an utter nadir, which is a major reason OTL's Greek Revolt went so well.

The thing is... Constantinople is the capital.

Could they have achieved a Lebanon solution, with a Muslim Turkish Sultan and a Christian Greek Vizier?
Hmm... the Phanariots having a much larger explicit say in governance, perhaps with a seat on the council of state for the Patriarch, is doable if the Ulema can be sweet-talked into not opposing it and the Jannisaries quashed early. That being said anything resembling the explicitly anti-Muslim armed revolt we saw would be outright counterproductive for such a goal, you need the various coffee shops passing translations of subversive frankish thinkers about and otherwise cooperating.
 
You want a more successful Greek Revolution seizing more land?

Have it be massively Russian supported, and by that I mean have a decades-long Russia wank that ends with them marching five hundred thousand men straight down to Kostantiniyye and smashing the empire altogether.
 
Here is a key issue. By the early 1800s the ability of the Ottoman central government/bureaucracy to enforce it's edicts beyond the capital and a few close cities like Selanik was climbing up from an utter nadir, which is a major reason OTL's Greek Revolt went so well.

The thing is... Constantinople is the capital.

Hmm... the Phanariots having a much larger explicit say in governance, perhaps with a seat on the council of state for the Patriarch, is doable if the Ulema can be sweet-talked into not opposing it and the Jannisaries quashed early. That being said anything resembling the explicitly anti-Muslim armed revolt we saw would be outright counterproductive for such a goal, you need the various coffee shops passing translations of subversive frankish thinkers about and otherwise cooperating.

The lack of Ottoman Authority in the early 1800s was really problematic. But the problems were largely the ruling class. The Rebellions were not as problematic as it was thought because it could be dealt with. But types as Ali Tepelene, Dahije or the Bosnian Ayans were harder to deal with.

If the Sultan agrees to accept a Phanariote as Grand Vizier, the Janissaries will drag the new Grand Vizier through the streets and replace (read: strangle) Mahmud II with one of his sons. They were already hostile to Mahmud II and would now have the support of the Muslim Population as "The Sultan gives in to Christian Demands". As the new Sultan is a kid it is easier to deal with. Such a result would mean an extended Janissary Corps...
 
You want a more successful Greek Revolution seizing more land?

Have it be massively Russian supported, and by that I mean have a decades-long Russia wank that ends with them marching five hundred thousand men straight down to Kostantiniyye and smashing the empire altogether.

There was Russian support and it reached Edirne. For better Russian support, it has to happen by 1823. The UK and France are busy in Spain by then.
 
There was Russian support and it reached Edirne. For better Russian support, it has to happen by 1823. The UK and France are busy in Spain by then.

Oh, yeah, I meant a very different Greek revolution, with a PoD decades back for a serious Russia wank. It’d need to be to the point where Russia could basically overrun the Empire completely and demand terms. Honestly, it’s probably ASB, or at least would require a genuine Russia wank given the issues the Russian state had (and the fact that the Ottomans wouldnt just be sitting there waiting to be overrun, they’d probably find an ally if Russia was that scary).
 
If the Sultan agrees to accept a Phanariote as Grand Vizier, the Janissaries will drag the new Grand Vizier through the streets and replace (read: strangle) Mahmud II with one of his sons.
Which is why removal of the Jannisaries would be a precondition and/or (preferably and) working up to a Christian Official Head of Government rather than Cabinet member over the course of a decade or three would be in my opinion needful
 
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