Well, not lose, or maybe advancing to Paris?What does 'winning' mean exactly?
Well, not lose, or maybe advancing to Paris?
You are right, but lets play along. The Germans win so decisively that the forces engaging them are brushed aside and need time to regroup before they Can take action again.I don't mean to be painful, but victory can come in many forms : perhaps it means the the Germans merely dont retreat or perhaps it means that the otl battle doesn't happen at all. The devil is in the details I'm afraid.
And would the entente surrender(or make peace) ?
I think the way for the Germans to win the Marne would be for the 2 Corps that were sent East after the fall of Namur, these would either be on 1st Army's flank and defend against the French attack, or fill the gap between 1st and 2nd Army to stop the advance into the gap by the allies.
In any event I think the Germans were at their culmination point and outnumbered by the French and British so the best they can hope for is to hold their positions rather than retreating to the Aisne, I don't think they can continue their advance.
Exactly. Their chance for a quick win had been two weeks earlier, and they missed it. After that the only question was where the line of trenches was going to be.
Do you mean the failure to encircle the French 5th Army?
Yes. As I understand it the BEF was also in considerable danger. And with those armies gone it's far from clear that the situation could have been retrieved.
A German victory at the Marne, assuming this entails the destruction of an Allied army in the process,
I love how everyone makes a German victory seem impossible once they failed in their envelopment manoeuvre. There is a little thing in warfare called morale. A German victory at the Marne, assuming this entails the destruction of an Allied army in the process, would likely lead to a general collapse of the fighting spirit of a good portion of the Allied line.
War isn't always just x's and o's. As far as the logistics of a further German advance, the Germans seemed to overcome this problem efficiently enough on the Eastern front. Time and consolidation are also a component of war.
Perhaps they encircle Paris