WI: General Motors sells Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) to Renault instead of Peugeot-Citroën

On February 29, 2012, Opel/Vauxhall announced the creation of a major alliance with Peugeot-Citroën resulting in General Motors taking a 7% share of Peugeot-Citroën, becoming Peugeot-Citroën's second-largest shareholder after the Peugeot family. The alliance was intended to enable $2 billion per year of cost savings through platform sharing, common purchasing, and other economies of scale. In December 2013, General Motors sold its 7% interest in Peugeot-Citroën for £250 million, after plans of cost savings were not as successful. Opel/Vauxhall was said to be among Europe's most aggressive discounters in mass-market. General Motors reported a 2016 loss of US$257 million from its European operations (while it was reported that General Motors has lost about US$20 billion in Europe since 1999). In March 2017, Peugeot-Citroën agreed to buy Opel, its British twin sister brand Vauxhall and their European auto lending business from General Motors for US$2.2 billion. In return, General Motors payed Peugeot-Citroën US$3.2 billion for future European pension obligations and keep managing US$9.8 billion worth of plans for existing retirees. Furthermore, General Motors is responsible for paying about US$400 million annually for 15 years to fund the existing Great Britain and Germany pension plans. The acquisition of Opel and Vauxhall by Peugeot-Citroën was completed in August 2017.

However, seeing how the Opel Vivaro/Vauxhall Vivaro (which was formally known as the "Opel Arena"/"Vauxhall Arena" from 1997 to 2001) was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Trafic, and seeing how the Opel Movano/Vauxhall Movano was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Master, why did General Motors sell Opel and Vauxhall to Peugeot-Citroën and NOT Renault?

But what if Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) decided to create a major alliance with Renault instead of Peugeot-Citroën, thus resulting in General Motors to sell Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) to Renault in 2017? Would Renault be worthy of saving Holden?

Renault's proposed platform-sharing with Opel/Vauxhall/Holden:
Renault (Est. 1899) (France)
Opel (Est. 1899) (Germany)
Vauxhall (Est. 1904) (Britain) (Opel's British counterpart)
Holden (Est. 1908) (Australia) (Opel's Oceanian counterpart)​
Renault Trafic (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Vivaro (formally known as the "Opel Arena") (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Vauxhall Vivaro (formally known as the "Vauxhall Arena") (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Holden Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Renault Master (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Vauxhall Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Holden Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Renault Clio (Hatchback)Opel Corsa (Hatchback)
Vauxhall Corsa (formally known as the "Vauxhall Nova") (Hatchback)
Holden Corsa (Hatchback)
Renault Megane (Hatchback/Station Wagon)Opel Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Holden Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Renault Kangoo (Commercial van)Opel Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Vauxhall Combo (formally known as the "Vauxhall Astramax") (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Holden Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Renault Koleos (Crossover SUV)
Renault Grand Austral (Crossover SUV) (A 7-Seater version of the Renault Austral)
Opel Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Twizy (Quadricycle)
Mobilize Duo (Quadricycle)
Opel Rocks (Quadricycle) (A rebadged Mobilize Duo) (Was previously a rebadged Renault Twizy from 2017 to 2023)
Renault Zoe (Hatchback)Opel Ampera (Hatchback)
Vauxhall Ampera (Hatchback)
Holden Ampera (Hatchback)
Renault Captur (Crossover SUV)Opel Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Holden Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Renault Kadjar (Crossover SUV)
Renault Austral (Crossover SUV)
Opel Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Talisman (Sedan/Station Wagon)Opel Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Holden Commodore (Sedan/Station Wagon)
 
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On February 29, 2012, Opel/Vauxhall announced the creation of a major alliance with Peugeot-Citroën resulting in General Motors taking a 7% share of Peugeot-Citroën, becoming Peugeot-Citroën's second-largest shareholder after the Peugeot family. The alliance was intended to enable $2 billion per year of cost savings through platform sharing, common purchasing, and other economies of scale. In December 2013, General Motors sold its 7% interest in Peugeot-Citroën for £250 million, after plans of cost savings were not as successful. Opel/Vauxhall was said to be among Europe's most aggressive discounters in mass-market. General Motors reported a 2016 loss of US$257 million from its European operations (while it was reported that General Motors has lost about US$20 billion in Europe since 1999). In March 2017, Peugeot-Citroën agreed to buy Opel, its British twin sister brand Vauxhall and their European auto lending business from General Motors for US$2.2 billion. In return, General Motors payed Peugeot-Citroën US$3.2 billion for future European pension obligations and keep managing US$9.8 billion worth of plans for existing retirees. Furthermore, General Motors is responsible for paying about US$400 million annually for 15 years to fund the existing Great Britain and Germany pension plans. The acquisition of Opel and Vauxhall by Peugeot-Citroën was completed in August 2017.

However, seeing how the Opel Vivaro/Vauxhall Vivaro (which was formally known as the "Opel Arena"/"Vauxhall Arena" from 1997 to 2001) was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Trafic, and seeing how the Opel Movano/Vauxhall Movano was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Master, why did General Motors sell Opel and Vauxhall to Peugeot-Citroën and NOT Renault?

But what if Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) decided to create a major alliance with Renault instead of Peugeot-Citroën, thus resulting in General Motors to sell Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) to Renault in 2017? Would Renault be worthy of saving Holden?

Renault's proposed platform-sharing with Opel/Vauxhall/Holden:
Renault (Est. 1899) (France)
Opel (Est. 1899) (Germany)
Vauxhall (Est. 1904) (Britain) (Opel's British counterpart)
Holden (Est. 1908) (Australia) (Opel's Oceanian counterpart)​
Renault Trafic (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Vauxhall Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Holden Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Renault Master (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Vauxhall Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Holden Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Renault Clio (Hatchback)Opel Corsa (Hatchback)
Vauxhall Corsa (Hatchback)
Holden Corsa (Hatchback)
Renault Megane (Hatchback/Station Wagon)Opel Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Holden Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Renault Kangoo (Commercial van)Opel Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Vauxhall Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Holden Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Renault Koleos (Crossover SUV)
Renault Grand Austral (Crossover SUV) (A 7-Seater version of the Renault Austral)
Opel Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Twizy (Quadricycle)
Mobilize Duo (Quadricycle)
Opel Rocks (Quadricycle) (A rebadged Mobilize Duo) (Was previously a rebadged Renault Twizy from 2017 to 2023)
Renault Zoe (Hatchback)Opel Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Vauxhall Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Holden Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Renault Captur (Crossover SUV)Opel Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Holden Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Renault Kadjar (Crossover SUV)
Renault Austral (Crossover SUV)
Opel Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Talisman (Sedan/Station Wagon)Opel Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Holden Commodore (Sedan/Station Wagon)
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On February 29, 2012, Opel/Vauxhall announced the creation of a major alliance with Peugeot-Citroën resulting in General Motors taking a 7% share of Peugeot-Citroën, becoming Peugeot-Citroën's second-largest shareholder after the Peugeot family. The alliance was intended to enable $2 billion per year of cost savings through platform sharing, common purchasing, and other economies of scale. In December 2013, General Motors sold its 7% interest in Peugeot-Citroën for £250 million, after plans of cost savings were not as successful. Opel/Vauxhall was said to be among Europe's most aggressive discounters in mass-market. General Motors reported a 2016 loss of US$257 million from its European operations (while it was reported that General Motors has lost about US$20 billion in Europe since 1999). In March 2017, Peugeot-Citroën agreed to buy Opel, its British twin sister brand Vauxhall and their European auto lending business from General Motors for US$2.2 billion. In return, General Motors payed Peugeot-Citroën US$3.2 billion for future European pension obligations and keep managing US$9.8 billion worth of plans for existing retirees. Furthermore, General Motors is responsible for paying about US$400 million annually for 15 years to fund the existing Great Britain and Germany pension plans. The acquisition of Opel and Vauxhall by Peugeot-Citroën was completed in August 2017.

However, seeing how the Opel Vivaro/Vauxhall Vivaro (which was formally known as the "Opel Arena"/"Vauxhall Arena" from 1997 to 2001) was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Trafic, and seeing how the Opel Movano/Vauxhall Movano was actually a shamelessly rebadged copycat of the Renault Master, why did General Motors sell Opel and Vauxhall to Peugeot-Citroën and NOT Renault?

But what if Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) decided to create a major alliance with Renault instead of Peugeot-Citroën, thus resulting in General Motors to sell Opel/Vauxhall (along with Holden) to Renault in 2017? Would Renault be worthy of saving Holden?

Renault's proposed platform-sharing with Opel/Vauxhall/Holden:
Renault (Est. 1899) (France)
Opel (Est. 1899) (Germany)
Vauxhall (Est. 1904) (Britain) (Opel's British counterpart)
Holden (Est. 1908) (Australia) (Opel's Oceanian counterpart)​
Renault Trafic (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Vauxhall Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Holden Vivaro (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Trafic)
Renault Master (Commercial van/Commercial truck)Opel Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Vauxhall Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Holden Movano (Commercial van/Commercial truck) (A rebadged Renault Master)
Renault Clio (Hatchback)Opel Corsa (Hatchback)
Vauxhall Corsa (Hatchback)
Holden Corsa (Hatchback)
Renault Megane (Hatchback/Station Wagon)Opel Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Holden Astra (Hatchback/Station Wagon)
Renault Kangoo (Commercial van)Opel Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Vauxhall Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Holden Combo (Commercial van) (A rebadged Renault Kangoo)
Renault Koleos (Crossover SUV)
Renault Grand Austral (Crossover SUV) (A 7-Seater version of the Renault Austral)
Opel Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Grandland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Twizy (Quadricycle)
Mobilize Duo (Quadricycle)
Opel Rocks (Quadricycle) (A rebadged Mobilize Duo) (Was previously a rebadged Renault Twizy from 2017 to 2023)
Renault Zoe (Hatchback)Opel Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Vauxhall Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Holden Ampera (Hatchback) (A rebadged Renault Zoe)
Renault Captur (Crossover SUV)Opel Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Holden Mokka (Crossover SUV)
Renault Kadjar (Crossover SUV)
Renault Austral (Crossover SUV)
Opel Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Vauxhall Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Holden Crossland (Crossover SUV)
Renault Talisman (Sedan/Station Wagon)Opel Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Vauxhall Insignia (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Holden Commodore (Sedan/Station Wagon)
Isn't it around this time that Nissan (in which Renault hold a significant amount of shares) is busy acquiring Mitsubishi, at the end of it the CEO of the Alliance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn) is a bit in a trouble which could probably lead to the Alliance disintegration?
(https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/renault-nissan-messy-breakup-is-least-bad-option-2022-10-10)
 
Isn't it around this time that Nissan (in which Renault hold a significant amount of shares) is busy acquiring Mitsubishi, at the end of it the CEO of the Alliance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ghosn) is a bit in a trouble which could probably lead to the Alliance disintegration?
(https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/renault-nissan-messy-breakup-is-least-bad-option-2022-10-10)
Well the best timing for to make Renault buy Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Saturn from General Motors so that Renault can revive Opel/Vauxhall/Holden from General Motors' touch of death would be when Opel lost over 835,000,000 Deutsche-Marks/426,928,542 Euros in 2000: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2001/09/opel-s25.html
 

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Well the best timing for to make Renault buy Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Saturn from General Motors so that Renault can revive Opel/Vauxhall/Holden from General Motors' touch of death would be when Opel lost over 835,000,000 Deutsche-Marks/426,928,542 Euros in 2000: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2001/09/opel-s25.html
the only thing that Saturn brings to the party at this time, is their US Sales Dealerships, that numbered around 400 in North America in 2009 to sell their rebadged Opels and Vauxhalls, plus the shared Sky with Pontiac, that in the US took the place Opel Speedster and whatever the Vauxhall version of that was called.

With the break from GM, Saturn loses access to that platform, and the tooling was gone from Opel already for the earlier platform that the Sky, so no more Roadsters for awhile
 
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