WI General Bee is not killed at Bull Run

The Confederates had been losing at the Battle of First Bull Run. Brigadier General Barnard E. Bee Jr. tried to rally his retreating brigade and was inspired by Colonel Jackson's firmness in the battle. He gave Jackson his nickname of "Stonewall"....before falling mortally wounded.

What if Stonewall Jackson had been killed at this battle instead of Bee (which I think is very likely)? How would this have affected the battle as well as the overall war?
 
Well, the worst case scenario of Stonewall's death at BR 1.0, as accounted in What If?, is a possible collapse of the CS army comparable to the collapse of the US army OTL.

Whether (as the WI essay predicts) the AoP could be reorganized in time to take advantage and lead to the "quick war" all expected is questionable, IMO. As my old CW prof Dr. Robertson put it, BR 1.0 was a "clash of armed mobs" rather than a true battle of armies.

Rather I'd assume it takes a while to reorganize the army, particularly with a throng of noncom gawkers clogging the roads trying to congratulate the "victors". After let's assume weeks the AoP moves south and we have a second battle somewhere deeper in VA. Let's assume (following the RR in route around the rivers to hit Richmond) Culpepper, Orange, or possibly as deep as Gordonsville. Continuing Union victories could lead to an early siege of Richmond, otherwise CS victory drives the AoP back to Manassas or possibly all the way back to MD if severe enough.

Bee's survival, can't say. Considering the deep doo-doo his corps was in at the time of the (possibly ironic) "Stonewall" comment I can't imagine he'd be too pivotal, so you'd need to extrapolate his performance into future battles and there's little evidence to extrapolate from.
 

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Bee's survival, can't say. Considering the deep doo-doo his corps was in at the time of the (possibly ironic) "Stonewall" comment I can't imagine he'd be too pivotal, so you'd need to extrapolate his performance into future battles and there's little evidence to extrapolate from.

Yes, there is. Bee did very well, Jackson was average at best.
 
While Jackson's flair made the Valley Campaign a bit more impressive any somewhat offensive general could have won in the Valley, given the poor level of Federal Generalship involved.

The question, as far as the Valley goes, really is; could whoever replaces Jackson in TTL make enough of a disturbance in the Valley to make McDowells corps get transfered there?

If McDowell joins up with McClellan the odds against Johnston succeeding are great. In OTL Johnston plan for Fair Oaks came about because of McDowell.

In OTL Johnston had planned to attack the stronger wing of McClellan's Army and do significant damage to that before McDowell arrived as he felt that time was short and he had to do as much damage as he possibly could to stop his forces being totally overwhelmed by the enemies numbers.

However, when he learned that McDowell had been transfered with his force to the Valley Johnston relaxed a bit and took a bit more time to look as the situation. He then decided that it would be better to attack the isolated, weaker wing of the AotP as chances of success were greater there.

So the whole situation in Virginia may actually change. If Johnston attack the Stronger wing then he is likely to do a good deal of damage but McClellan's not going to let his Army get too badly damaged and Johnston will still be mindful that he is outnumbered and the Confederate President does not trust him enough to follow his advice to concentrait manpower.

Johnston may not fall wounded at the Battle near the Chickhominey, as it wouldn't be Fair Oaks any more, as so would continue as Commander of the Eastern Theatre.

I just had a thought. Jackson's replacement would be likely to be Edmund Kirby Smith wouldn't it?
 
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