WI: Garand doesn't emigrate to the USA

[Discernible]

What other potential automatic rifles were in consideration if the M1 Garand isn't a reality? (Add pictures if you can).

Would automatic rifles be adopted by the US Army later or sooner.

How would it affect the development of automatic rifles generally and globally?

 

[Sekhmet_D]

There was the Johnson.

 

[Admiral Bloonbeard]

US adopts the Johnson as it's main rifle in World War 2.

 

[Driftless]

Or, a bit of a plausibity reach..... One of the later iterations of the Lewis Gun gets tweaked for the dozen-th time and comes back home to the US as a much simplified box-magazine fed semi-automatic rifle. The Lewis gun got re-configured so many times, including ditching the famous clock-work magazine advancement and the barrell shroud. I believe that BSA had created a much simplified and lighter weight full auto version of the weapon.

More plausible, adapted Winchester Arms (1907?) and Browning/FN (much adapted design based on the BAR*) decide to jump into the competition.

* Both Winchester and Browning produced popular semi-automatic hunting rifles, in a wide variety of high power calibers, after WW2

 

[njslim]

What other potential automatic rifles were in consideration if the M1 Garand isn't a reality? (Add pictures if you can).

Would automatic rifles be adopted by the US Army later or sooner.

How would it affect the development of automatic rifles generally and globally?

Garand was a French Candian (as were my grandparents) Many French Canadians emigrated to the US, particularly New England (including my family) in search of better opportunity Would have needed a compelling reason to stay in French Canada which was rural and poor

 

[hiddenzone02]

Remington autoloaders, though never an option, had always been THE reference model when the Ordnance Bureau did their tests.

Trials with a small number of "militarized" .25 Remington autoloading rifles, despite their unsuitability for combat, provided a body of practical experience with semiautomatic rifles and an appreciation for the idea less powerful ammunition might be a critical part of the successful development of such weapons.

My passage:

A Tougher World for Winchester: Remington Model 8 Rifle Served Extensively in WW1

A Tougher World for Winchester: Remington Model 8 Served Extensively in WW1 Or What If: French Army adopted Browning FN 1900 semi-auto as service rifle in WWI. Notes: 1. I have little real-world knowledge of historic small arms; please feel free to point out any errors or unrealistic story...

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[muskeg13]

It would have been the .276 Pedersen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedersen_rifle
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/m1-garand-development/us-pedersen-276-rifle/

Shooting a .276 Pedersen

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.276 Pedersen and the “Other” Garand? - The Armory Life

What was the first true intermediate cartridge? Most responses will point to 7.92x33mm or 7.62x39mm. An argument can be made that .30 Carbine pre-dates both, but if you broaden the definition into more of an intellectual concept it is possible to identify an intermediate cartridge that was...

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