WI: Göring doesn't cancel a bunch of projects in the February of 1940

FBKampfer

Banned
Irrelevant, because that's not what you said. You said that the P-47 was the only aircraft that was faster than the 109, and that it was significantly faster than the P-51 and P-38, which so far as I can tell isn't true. Acceleration has nothing to do with speed aside from how fast you get to said speed.


Firstly I stated the late model K's were faster.

If you want to go and start moving goal posts by pulling numbers for the G-6, or start comparing it to the rarer 150 octane equipped mustangs, that be your own business. But it makes for a piss poor argument about the 109 being obsolete.

Second, I merely said it was faster, not significantly. And after mentioning the Spit XIV for RoC I believe the 14 was marginally faster as well, around 447 vs 445 for the 109 IIRC.

And third, the rest is relevant since you said I was going based on speed alone. Speed, climb, and acceleration all trump maneuverability in a fight. Or you can go ask the Japanese pilots how their zeros did against late F6F's and F4U's
 

FBKampfer

Banned
In terms of speed or turn radius? The turn radius shouldn't be impacted by that, while the D-series of P-51 is the unambiguously more powerful model, as the K-series Bf-109 with two stage two speed supercharger and MW-50 boost (but draggy armament) never really got into production. The K-4 model was little more than a cleaned up G-series and still slower than the P-51D.

My mistake, I thought you were referencing speed.

Though P-51B's did tend to run slightly lighter, but you are right, it shouldn't make a noticeable difference.

But they had very different speed curves, the B being almost 10mph slower on the deck, but being almost 10mph faster and hitting its peak speed around 27,000ft if memory serves.


And all 605 powered 109's had the single stage variable speed supercharger (not a 2 speed, but continuously variable, and barometrically controlled) and all were theoretically able to run MW50, but it was usually saved for the G-6 and G-16/As high blown interceptors, and the K models.

But the K4 reached serial production in late September 1944, and began to reach field units in strength in mid October.
 
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