What if instead of the cruisers sent to sink the graf spee aircraft from ARK ROYAL sink her. What would the possible knock on effects be?
I can't comment on wartime butterflies,
But cinema would be robbed of the following exchange.
A message from the commodore, sir.
The commodore asks,
can we reach the Falklands?
Reply.
"Can reach Plymouth, if ordered."
- Yeoman.
- Sir?
Add...
"Request permission
to revise list of spares."
"Revise list of spares."
Hookie Bell.
Well, if anybody can make it, he will.
Signal.
"Proceed Falklands.
Godspeed."
Dave
What if instead of the cruisers sent to sink the graf spee aircraft from ARK ROYAL sink her. What would the possible knock on effects be?
Force H as we know it didn't exist in the final quarter of 1939.What if instead of the cruisers sent to sink the graf spee aircraft from ARK ROYAL sink her. What would the possible knock on effects be?
At the time of the hunt for Graf Spee, the HMS Ark Royal actually was part of "Force-K", which was consisting of:
Renown, Ark Royal and destroyers Hardy, Hostile, Hereward and Hasty.
Force H was a name used in this period as well, but a different force than the one formed in 1940.
In actual order of battle:
Force F: HMS Berwick & HMS York at North Atlantic, Western Aproaches.
Force G: HMS Exeter, HMS Cumberland, HMS Ajax & HMNZS Achilles at the Falklands.
Force H: HMS Cumberland, HMS Shropshire & HMS Sussex at Cape Good Hope.
Force I: HMS Eagle, HMS Dorsetshire & HMS Cornwall, at Ceylon.
Force J: HMS Gloreous & HMS Malaya, North Atlantic.
Force K: HMS Ark Royal, HMS Renown, HMS Neptune, HMS Hardy, HMS Rero, HMS Hereward, HMS Hostile & submarine HMS Clyde, at Freetown
Force L: HMS Furious & HMS Repulse, at the North atlantic, with the Home Fleet.
Force X: (French) Foch & Dupleix, at Dakar.
Force Y: (British/French) HMS Hermes, Strasbourg & HMS Neptune (later transfered to Force K), West Indies.
He might actually pull his finger out one day and finish It. The lazy sod.Didn't Cryhavoc01 write a good short TL on the French, including Bearn's aircraft catching and sinking GS?
He might actually pull his finger out one day and finish It. The lazy sod.
At the time of the hunt for Graf Spee, the HMS Ark Royal actually was part of "Force-K", which was consisting of:
Renown, Ark Royal and destroyers Hardy, Hostile, Hereward and Hasty.
Force H was a name used in this period as well, but a different force than the one formed in 1940.
In actual order of battle:
Force F: HMS Berwick & HMS York at North Atlantic, Western Aproaches.
Force G: HMS Exeter, HMS Cumberland, HMS Ajax & HMNZS Achilles at the Falklands.
Force H: HMS Cumberland, HMS Shropshire & HMS Sussex at Cape Good Hope.
Force I: HMS Eagle, HMS Dorsetshire & HMS Cornwall, at Ceylon.
Force J: HMS Gloreous & HMS Malaya, North Atlantic.
Force K: HMS Ark Royal, HMS Renown, HMS Neptune, HMS Hardy, HMS Rero, HMS Hereward, HMS Hostile & submarine HMS Clyde, at Freetown
Force L: HMS Furious & HMS Repulse, at the North atlantic, with the Home Fleet.
Force X: (French) Foch & Dupleix, at Dakar.
Force Y: (British/French) HMS Hermes, Strasbourg & HMS Neptune (later transfered to Force K), West Indies.
Two Cumberlands?
What about the mediterranean fleet? You know, Warspite, Barham. I thought Force J, Malaya and Glorious, were operating there.
That scene with Jamaica (as Exeter) pouring it on with battle ensigns streaming! Gets me every time (and it's been a lot of times!)I love that film, could watch it an infinite number of times.