WI: Europeans/Indians expelled from Africa in world with a heavier-colonized Africa
- Thread starter Zuvarq
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The East Indians expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin fled to Britain. I suspect they'd mostly flee to the colonial motherland.
HeavyWeaponsGuy
Banned
If it's a very substantial group, especially if it's one that owns huge amounts of property and/or wealth, economic collapse.
If not... demographic problems from removing a large segment of the population.
If not... demographic problems from removing a large segment of the population.
See Uganda and the other ex-British colonies and what happened to their formally very large Indian minorities; writ large.
'Course there was a plus side to it.
Without the expulsions the UK would never have gotten Freddie Mercury, and Queen would never have come to be.
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If I were a Bulsara I wouldn't have stayed on Zanzibar given the troubles there in 1964.....
As for the Indians expelled from Uganda Uganda's loss was very much Britain's gain.
What's the threshold before you get a South Africa-style situation instead of mass expulsions? Or was that more of a situational thing?
Alex Richards
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That was more to do with the attitudes of the Boers (which had included emigrating from British territory so they could keep their slaves) than the large white minoirty per se.
How exactly is Africa going to expel 30 million people, especially when, based on Africa's geography and climate, those people would mostly be living in a few places where they'd not only make-up local majorities, but make-up a significant chunk of the population AND who are not going to just leave in many cases, but actively fight against it.
Soviet tanks?
Not to mention - why are they expelling all these people? It's certainly not inconceivable, but the OTL leaders that did the expulsions of OTL are probably butterflied away in any situation where this happens - not to mention that if 30 million Europeans and subcontinental Indians have settled Africa, the process of colonial development and decolonization is probably not going to be identical to OTL - so saying that the ATL leaders follow the footsteps of OTL leaders seems insufficient.
They did it in Uganda and Zanzibar OTL using machetes, petrol-bombs and mass rapes.
And, yes, it wasn't pretty.
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Yes, but those were very small populations, with Uganda only having about 70,000 while in Zanzibar the number was at the most 20,000.
However in this situation you're talking about millions of people, who form local majorities and are going to be armed themselves.
I mean imagine if South Africa tried to expel it's 4.3 million whites, it'd be a blood bath, leading to total economic collapse, international intervention and those responsible for it being imprisoned or executed and, if their was a significant deal of support among the African population, would lead the rest of the world and the white, asian and coloured population, to view them with suspicion and not trust them.
There is a vast difference between say 30 000 and 30 million. If the figure is something like 30 or 60 thousand they can be intimidated using force and expelled. But if the figure is something like 30 million there could be resistance, armed rebellion and even civil war. There will be international repurcussions and even UN intervention. The host country cannot getaway with such an action easily, without very undesirable consequences for themselves.
It's 30 million throughout all of Africa, though.
But of course there will be resistance.
Yes, but do to Africa's climate and geogrpahy atleast 28.5 million of them are gonna be living in at most a dozen countries, with half a dozen holding the bulk of those.