WI: EU banned Clickbaiting

This should probably go into Chat and if you ask me, I might be okay if this kind of happened, as clickbait articles are garbage and not worth the time and energy put into; more worthy than banning memes.
 
Unless I'm missing something about the definition, it seems to me that "clickbait" is an even more nebulous concept than "obscenity" or "hate speech". Is there anything more concrete to the idea than just "Stuff that gets people to click on a link, but which a given individual happens to think is really tacky"?

I suppose if a link explicitly promises something that the article fails to deliver(eg. "The cutest puppies you've even seen!", and then there are no puppies), that could be a discernible offense, similar to false advertising.
 
there si too much money in things. and the internet is going to wind up going from an open platform where people can self regulate while maintaining some semblance of humanity unto itself to just being a corporate clog and advertising spiel.

you thought it was bad before with a cable bill and an internet bill. now you need to have all of these services to watch something and it will cost double if not more.
 
They already ban enough stupid stuff in the EU. I always found it odd how Europe has more censorship laws and advertising regulations then the United States. Once the US allows nudity on regular tv wouldn't that make their media regulations be completely less restricted then the European ones? The FCC keeps losing power here while in EU it seems like these types of organizations have increased? Most internet and media in the US is becoming increasingly self regulated and leant. Basically the stuff everyone agrees that bad is the only stuff targeted. The servers and government here are looking for only serious illegal activity with the exception of blatant copyright law violations. Even then copyright here are only enforced when you get called out by people or the owner of the material for violating copyright law. For example, Disney products uploaded on YouTube without permission will be immediately taken down but some products created by other group that violate the same rules will stay up because the people who own don't care as much as Disney. Big companies here will work together to make sure people aren't watching their stuff for free here. A lot of sites that work perfectly fine in the US experience issues on EU servers now. Wouldn't half the stuff Americans say on the internet get them in more trouble in the EU?
 
They already ban enough stupid stuff in the EU. I always found it odd how Europe has more censorship laws and advertising regulations then the United States. Once the US allows nudity on regular tv wouldn't that make their media regulations be completely less restricted then the European ones? The FCC keeps losing power here while in EU it seems like these types of organizations have increased? Most internet and media in the US is becoming increasingly self regulated and leant. Basically the stuff everyone agrees that bad is the only stuff targeted. The servers and government here are looking for only serious illegal activity with the exception of blatant copyright law violations. Even then copyright here are only enforced when you get called out by people or the owner of the material for violating copyright law. For example, Disney products uploaded on YouTube without permission will be immediately taken down but some products created by other group that violate the same rules will stay up because the people who own don't care as much as Disney. Big companies here will work together to make sure people aren't watching their stuff for free here. A lot of sites that work perfectly fine in the US experience issues on EU servers now. Wouldn't half the stuff Americans say on the internet get them in more trouble in the EU?
FOSTA/SESTA is all on you guys though.
 

DougM

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So are we doing a “I know what click bait is when I see it” sort of thing? Because you will never get a comprehensive definition that will hold up.
 
FOSTA/SESTA is all on you guys though.
That act perfectly represent the American regulations over the Internet. It is vague enough to be apply when founded needed. The major difference between the US and EU system is interpretation and implementation. For example, FOSTA would target people who are showing online activity that heavily implies they are involved or taking part in illegal activity relating to sex trafficking or they already know that person is doing it so they use the slightest excuse on his internet history to bust him. They use it as a excuse to search and seize people they know are doing it but they can't get solid proof on. In the EU, a similar act would be used against people who make comments about it or make fictionalized porn about the topic. American law enforcement are only trying to find the series offenders not trolls, perverts online, or similar types of people.
 
That act perfectly represent the American regulations over the Internet. It is vague enough to be apply when founded needed. The major difference between the US and EU system is interpretation and implementation. For example, FOSTA would target people who are showing online activity that heavily implies they are involved or taking part in illegal activity relating to sex trafficking or they already know that person is doing it so they use the slightest excuse on his internet history to bust him. They use it as a excuse to search and seize people they know are doing it but they can't get solid proof on. In the EU, a similar act would be used against people who make comments about it or make fictionalized porn about the topic. American law enforcement are only trying to find the series offenders not trolls, perverts online, or similar types of people.
Hasn't stopped Facebook from just outright banning flirting over it, and Tumblr from kicking out half of their user base.
 
Hasn't stopped Facebook from just outright banning flirting over it, and Tumblr from kicking out half of their user base.
That’s more self inflicted and not so much government oversight. Those companies are doing that more for self image and to avoid any possible controversy over it. Even when those social media outlets ban or remove certain content it is often only the worse offenders and the most open ones. The others often just go to being private accounts only people looking for them will follow it so they don’t get reported as much. You will be surprised by what content facebook, Twitter, and other sites like it allow. I got rid of my social media because the people I followed kept reposting hardcore porn. This is at least the situation in the US. You have to remember a lot of social media and tumblr policies take EU rules into account not just US ones. The US might be very heavily spying on everyone here but with actual censorship and regulations they are very hands off like they are with a lot of stuff. Given the ability the US government has at spying on people who are online they probably have a much easier time weaving through it all to find serious criminals activities compare to the EU. If they arrested everyone for the “victimless” crimes online our prison would be even more packed. The US policy is to find people like terrorist, cartels, human traffickers, drugs and financial fraud online. The EU wants to go after people who they consider to be posting offensive or inflammatory content online.
 
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