WI: Ethiopian-Somali War in 1964?

What reason do they have to reform after a successfully war and the prestige that comes with it?
Could we see deficiencies in the Ethiopian military being revealed during an Ethiopian-Somali War and thus, it convinces Haile Selassie to reform the Ethiopian military which might have some affects on Ethiopia itself?
 
I'm not completely sure if this thread is dead but I was thinking about what @twistedirregular said above about the potential deficiencies in the Ethiopian military and was wondering - could this Ethiopian-Somali War expose the problems within the Ethiopian military, causing a series of reforms and reorganization that prepares Ethiopia for an alternate Ogaden War if Somalia chooses to come back for revenge under a different government. On another note, could any Ogadeni Somali collaboration with Somali forces and guerrilla attacks in the Ethiopian rear make it so that the regime of Haile Selassie works at an integration process to Ethiopianize the Somali-inhabited regions to the east?
 
could this Ethiopian-Somali War expose the problems within the Ethiopian military, causing a series of reforms and reorganization that prepares Ethiopia for an alternate Ogaden War if Somalia chooses to come back for revenge under a different government.
Ethiopian military would still get wreaked once the Dreg come to power

so that the regime of Haile Selassie works at an integration process to Ethiopianize the Somali-inhabited regions to the east?
More likely to just expel them or force large amount across the border like the derg did
 
Ethiopian military would still get wreaked once the Dreg come to power

More likely to just expel them or force large amount across the border like the derg did
Wouldn't the Derg's rise to power be butterflied away with this POD? And what makes you think the Ethiopian military would "still be wrecked"?

I've never heard of this before - when did the Derg attempt to expel the Ogadeni Somalis from Ethiopia? Force them across the border, I'm not even sure whether or not Haile Selassie's regime would actually do this.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Ethiopian-Somali_Border_War

I was thinking of more ideas for Ethiopia TLs in the future and remembered this little gem - the Ethiopian-Somali Border War of 1964. What could happen if efforts at negotiation had been unsuccessful and both of these countries had gone to war over the disputed Ogaden region? What effects might this have on both Ethiopia and Somalia?
Selassie basically had full US protection. Somalia might not have the best ending in this case.
 
I've never heard of this before - when did the Derg attempt to expel the Ogadeni Somalis from Ethiopia? Force them across the border, I'm not even sure about that.
I was referring to the fact Ethiopian actions during and the aftermath of the Ogaden war lead to a large number of Somalians being forced to flee the region
And what makes you think the Ethiopian military would "still be wrecked"?
Purges
 
Monarchy is unlikely to solve the issues that it's downfall
I'm not so sure about that - the reforms in the Ethiopian military that are caused by the recent war might actually trigger some reforms in Ethiopia's political scene.
Us wouldn't intervene directly but would rather send military supplies
Perhaps the Ethiopian military realizes its reliance on American equipment and attempts to find alternative sources of advisors alongside arms?
 
I'm not so sure about that - the reforms in the Ethiopian military that are caused by the recent war might actually trigger some reforms in Ethiopia's political scene.
Depends on if the reforms or not happen. Haile Selassie might decide that any military reforms could lead to his overthrow opt not to do any or with a victory decide they are not needed. Alternatively military reforms might not lead to changes in the political scene.
 
Depends on if the reforms or not happen. Haile Selassie might decide that any military reforms could lead to his overthrow opt not to do any or with a victory decide they are not needed. Alternatively military reforms might not lead to changes in the political scene.
I don't think Haile Selassie is so paranoid as not to allow for military reforms to go through but the potential effects on Ethiopia's political scene interests me - perhaps his own command of the Ethio-Somali War leads to Ethiopia managing to barely win and let it sink in that it's time for him to actually abdicate?
 
I don't think Haile Selassie is so paranoid as not to allow for military reforms to go through
This is roughly 4 years after the 1960 coup attempt so it is a possibility

perhaps his own command of the Ethio-Somali War leads to Ethiopia managing to barely win and let it sink in that it's time for him to actually abdicate?
If the 1960 coup attempt or the events of 1974 didn't lead to him abdicating I doubt this will.
 
Us wouldn't intervene directly but would rather send military supplies
It won't let Ethiopia collapse. Halie Selassie was vitally important. I do agree that an Ethiopian victory wont butterfly ethiopian problems. Indeed, it might lead to a much nastier region in general. Derg likely still rise, but an unstable somalia might be worse than Barre.
 
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