WI:England under the House of Guise

What if England became under the house of Guise after the Plantagenets gone extinct, is it possible for the Guises to inherit England, the POD is 1400 AD.
 

archaeogeek

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Because the House of Guise became important in French history so a Guise England is interesting.

Yeah but it only became important because it was a cadet branch of both the house of Lorraine and the house of France and as arch-catholics and next in line for the throne if the house of Bourbon could be gotten rid of. If you remove the conditions of the wars of religion and being backed by the counter-reformation powers you basically remove their main role in all the drama which made them so well known.
 
Was there any point in which they might have been able to marry someone who would give them a claim?

I don't know enough about the available English princesses and males of the house of Guise for this.
 
The only way to get a Guise on the English throne is to have Mary, Queen of Scots succeed - her mother was a Guise and she was brought up at the French court. It strikes me though that her succession is rather implausible, at least if she is succeeding Elizabeth - perhaps if Elizabeth died before her sister Mary, who then left the throne to her Scottish cousin?
 
Yeah but it only became important because it was a cadet branch of both the house of Lorraine and the house of France and as arch-catholics and next in line for the throne if the house of Bourbon could be gotten rid of. If you remove the conditions of the wars of religion and being backed by the counter-reformation powers you basically remove their main role in all the drama which made them so well known.

I've come across the bit about them being in line for the French throne before, but I don't actually understand how. Were they really male-line descendants of a former King of France?
 
I've come across the bit about them being in line for the French throne before, but I don't actually understand how. Were they really male-line descendants of a former King of France?

No. They were never in line for the throne, but I assume if the French Religious Wars went a bit more hectic, we might see the Guise take the throne if the Valois went extinct and maybe Henry IV was a little less compromising. Otherwise, they had no formal claim to the throne.
 
The only way to get a Guise on the English throne is to have Mary, Queen of Scots succeed - her mother was a Guise and she was brought up at the French court. It strikes me though that her succession is rather implausible, at least if she is succeeding Elizabeth - perhaps if Elizabeth died before her sister Mary, who then left the throne to her Scottish cousin?
Then have her marry her Guise cousin on her mother side, a marriage between their son and Jeanne of Navarre will cause a second hundred years war later on.
 

Zioneer

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Well, I think England will be embroiled in continental wars again when the House of Guise takes the throne.

Because, well, Guise will be Guise.
 
Then have her marry her Guise cousin on her mother side, a marriage between their son and Jeanne of Navarre will cause a second hundred years war later on.

You mean, the Huguenot Jeanne of Navarre? Though it occurs to me...Mary Queen of Scot's son converts to Protestantism to have a better shot at the English throne, then marries Jeanne...then one of their descendents (a Guise, I guess) claims the French throne in the name of Protestant liberty...oh, the irony:D
 
You mean, the Huguenot Jeanne of Navarre? Though it occurs to me...Mary Queen of Scot's son converts to Protestantism to have a better shot at the English throne, then marries Jeanne...then one of their descendents (a Guise, I guess) claims the French throne in the name of Protestant liberty...oh, the irony:D

A Hugenot-Anglican 'Angevin' cough! Guise Empire will be interesting..
 
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