WI:England retains Gascony in 1450's

I was thinking if England retains Gascony how would that the foreign policy of England.

Another thing is would the son of Margaret of Anjou and Henry VI marry a Navarrese or a Trastamaran in order to strengthen their rule there.
 

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I was thinking if England retains Gascony how would that the foreign policy of England.

Another thing is would the son of Margaret of Anjou and Henry VI marry a Navarrese or a Trastamaran in order to strengthen their rule there.

It's likely the French either buy it or take it later on.
 
I mean it will be a vassal similar to Auvergne and Brittany.

Both Brittany and Auvergne were part of France, though. That is, the duchies were part of what made up the kingdom of France.

So was Gascony. It was never part of England in the sense say, Lancaster is.
 
Both Brittany and Auvergne were part of France, though. That is, the duchies were part of what made up the kingdom of France.

Yes, that is what I am thinking of the Plantagenets giving up their claims to the Kingdom of France with one of the Plantagenets be a French Vassal ruling Gascony as a part of France.
 
Yes, that is what I am thinking of the Plantagenets giving up their claims to the Kingdom of France with one of the Plantagenets be a French Vassal ruling Gascony as a part of France.

What do the Plantagents (the main/royal line) gain in exchange?

This could be interesting, but why would they want to give up Gascony entirely?
 
What do the Plantagents (the main/royal line) gain in exchange?

This could be interesting, but why would they want to give up Gascony entirely?

In order to formally end the Hundred Years war and in order to avoid further battles with France.
 
In order to formally end the Hundred Years war and in order to avoid further battles with France.

That's going to be unpopular. Not saying you can't use it - Henry VI gave away other territories with much the same idea - but it won't go over well either in England or Gascony.

But hey, no one said kings had to be smart. :D
 
That's going to be unpopular. Not saying you can't use it - Henry VI gave away other territories with much the same idea - but it won't go over well either in England or Gascony.

But hey, no one said kings had to be smart. :D

Yeah, that would not be a popular decision.
 
With time, both lines will grow apart and Gascony will become just another Duchy within France.

Where things becomes interesting is when Louis XI tries to do away with the autonomous principalities. The Duke of Gascony, whoever he will be, may side with Francis II and Charles the Rash, which will make the War of the Public Good interesting - especially if the said Duke has what the others lacked : a brain.

Best case for France : nothing changes and Gascony is absorbed at some point.
Worst case : Louis XI loses big, and the King of France becomes the pupet of the Dukes and / or Burgondy, Britanny and Gascony stay independent.
 
With time, both lines will grow apart and Gascony will become just another Duchy within France.

Where things becomes interesting is when Louis XI tries to do away with the autonomous principalities. The Duke of Gascony, whoever he will be, may side with Francis II and Charles the Rash, which will make the War of the Public Good interesting - especially if the said Duke has what the others lacked : a brain.

Best case for France : nothing changes and Gascony is absorbed at some point.
Worst case : Louis XI loses big, and the King of France becomes the pupet of the Dukes and / or Burgondy, Britanny and Gascony stay independent.
I think Gascony, Foix-Bearn and Navarre can merge then go under a Capetian Cadet heir like what happened to Foix,Bearn and Navarre under Henry of Navarre who merged Foix, Bearn and Navarre to the French crown but this timeline if an analogue to Henry of Navarre is born he would have some claims to the English throne.
 
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