Following up on the "No Elizabeth Stuart" thread from a few weeks ago, I wanted to ask two slightly different questions (one of which I've posted before, actually
).
First, what if Elizabeth Stuart had married a different person--not one of her OTL suitors, but George William, Elector of Brandenburg? He was unmarried until 1616 in OTL, so he could have wed a princess who was considered one of the most beautiful women of the time.
Second, what if Charles, Prince of Wales had died before he could become OTL's Charles I? How would Elizabeth rule as the second queen by that name?
Below are some things I've thought about for a potential timeline (a Word post, hopefully legible). Any additions/changes/questions?
Results
· Marriage
o Elizabeth’s relationship with George William
§ Loving, neutral, or hostile? Why?
o Never marries Frederick V, Elector Palatine
§ Frederick V weds __ instead
§ Could Fred keep his Palatinate (on HRE-French border)?
§ Would Fred still become King of Bohemia?
o George William, in turn, never marries Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate
§ She is married to __ instead
· English Succession
o Charles, Prince of Wales [OTL Charles I] dies early from __
o James I dies from poor health and grief in 1619, 5 years earlier than in OTL
o Elizabeth Stuart becomes Queen of England
§ George William named King Consort upon ATL Elizabeth II’s coronation
· Brandenburg and Prussia Succession
o George William first in line to inherit both when father dies in 1619, as in OTL
§ Where would he choose to rule?
· Politics and Religion
o Return to Catholicism avoided in England
o Lutheranism remains the state religion in Brandenburg
§ George William never follows up on his interest in Calvinism ITTL
· Reign
o How long could ATL Elizabeth II live?
§ Died at 65 in 1662 in OTL. Could live at least three years longer.
o How many children? Who will live to adulthood?
§ Had thirteen in OTL. Nine survived.
§ For convenience, one male child becomes king upon age of majority
Legacy
· No OTL-style English Civil War—English Catholics could rebel instead?
· A Hohenzollern dynasty in England? How long?
Thirty Years’ War
· Different start—Fred might not accept throne of Bohemia by 1619 in ATL
o Who else would?
o Could anyone else help it succeed?
o If a Bohemian Revolt fizzled out, what else would start the war?
France
· Louis XIII still becomes king of France in 1610
o Still marries Anne of Austria in 1615 but
§ Louis has marriage annulled after Anne’s fourth miscarriage in 1631
o Who does Louis marry next?
o Does Cardinal Richelieu still come to/keep power?
o What else happens under Louis’ reign?
o Does France still become the dominant continental power?
o Succeeded by ATL Louis XIV
Spain
· Philip IV still ascends to the Spanish and Portuguese thrones in 1621
o Still marries Elizabeth of France in 1615 ITTL
§ After her death, he marries __
o How long does he reign (lived until 1665 in OTL)?
o Different advisors=Hapsburg dynasty survives in both Spain and Portugal? How much longer?
o Succeeded by ATL Balthazar, who lives to adulthood and succeeds his father
Other countries???
First, what if Elizabeth Stuart had married a different person--not one of her OTL suitors, but George William, Elector of Brandenburg? He was unmarried until 1616 in OTL, so he could have wed a princess who was considered one of the most beautiful women of the time.
Second, what if Charles, Prince of Wales had died before he could become OTL's Charles I? How would Elizabeth rule as the second queen by that name?
Below are some things I've thought about for a potential timeline (a Word post, hopefully legible). Any additions/changes/questions?
Results
· Marriage
o Elizabeth’s relationship with George William
§ Loving, neutral, or hostile? Why?
o Never marries Frederick V, Elector Palatine
§ Frederick V weds __ instead
§ Could Fred keep his Palatinate (on HRE-French border)?
§ Would Fred still become King of Bohemia?
o George William, in turn, never marries Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate
§ She is married to __ instead
· English Succession
o Charles, Prince of Wales [OTL Charles I] dies early from __
o James I dies from poor health and grief in 1619, 5 years earlier than in OTL
o Elizabeth Stuart becomes Queen of England
§ George William named King Consort upon ATL Elizabeth II’s coronation
· Brandenburg and Prussia Succession
o George William first in line to inherit both when father dies in 1619, as in OTL
§ Where would he choose to rule?
· Politics and Religion
o Return to Catholicism avoided in England
o Lutheranism remains the state religion in Brandenburg
§ George William never follows up on his interest in Calvinism ITTL
· Reign
o How long could ATL Elizabeth II live?
§ Died at 65 in 1662 in OTL. Could live at least three years longer.
o How many children? Who will live to adulthood?
§ Had thirteen in OTL. Nine survived.
§ For convenience, one male child becomes king upon age of majority
Legacy
· No OTL-style English Civil War—English Catholics could rebel instead?
· A Hohenzollern dynasty in England? How long?
Thirty Years’ War
· Different start—Fred might not accept throne of Bohemia by 1619 in ATL
o Who else would?
o Could anyone else help it succeed?
o If a Bohemian Revolt fizzled out, what else would start the war?
France
· Louis XIII still becomes king of France in 1610
o Still marries Anne of Austria in 1615 but
§ Louis has marriage annulled after Anne’s fourth miscarriage in 1631
o Who does Louis marry next?
o Does Cardinal Richelieu still come to/keep power?
o What else happens under Louis’ reign?
o Does France still become the dominant continental power?
o Succeeded by ATL Louis XIV
Spain
· Philip IV still ascends to the Spanish and Portuguese thrones in 1621
o Still marries Elizabeth of France in 1615 ITTL
§ After her death, he marries __
o How long does he reign (lived until 1665 in OTL)?
o Different advisors=Hapsburg dynasty survives in both Spain and Portugal? How much longer?
o Succeeded by ATL Balthazar, who lives to adulthood and succeeds his father
Other countries???