WI CSA enlisted the help of the spanish, french, english and germans

Is this scenario plausable.

  • It is plausable as is

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  • It is plausable with some minor revisions

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  • It is plausible with some major revisions

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  • It is not plausable whatsoever

    Votes: 23 92.0%

  • Total voters
    25
the CSA enlists the 4 countries to help them with their cause, they promise to split the US.

The CSA scares the spanish into thinking that the USA will take over their colonies. the British wants to reclaim the colonies. the French wants to reclaim northern New France
And the Germans want to be soverign over the population of Pensilvania, which is predominantly German.

how will the co-exist after the war?

attached is the proposed theoretical Treaty of Richmond. NOTE: TYPO IN PHOTO, SHOULD BE 1867 NOT 1976.

Blue = France
Yellow = Germany
Grey = CSA
Red = GB
Green = Spain

dots are for land that is alloted but not claimed as of yet.

(this post is doubled in the ASB forum because i am not sure of the plauseability)

THE PLAN FOR ATTACK (anything to east of USA starts from sea)

..GB GB ESP
......\ | /
CSA- USA -DUE
......./ | \
ESP CSA FRA

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the CSA enlists the 4 countries to help them with their cause, they promise to split the US.

The CSA scares the spanish into thinking that the USA will take over their colonies. the British wants to reclaim the colonies. the French wants to reclaim northern New France
And the Germans want to be soverign over the population of Pensilvania, which is predominantly German.

how will the co-exist after the war?

attached is the proposed theoretical Treaty of Richmond.

Blue = France
Yellow = Germany
Grey = CSA
Red = GB
Green = Spain

(this post is doubled in the ASB forum because i am not sure of the plauseability)

THE PLAN FOR ATTACK (anything to east of USA starts from sea)

..GB GB ESP
......\ | /
CSA- USA -DUE
......./ | \
ESP CSA FRA

A lot of mistakes:

1. Germany did not exist in the 1860s and Prussia wanting to control Pennsylvania is impluaible.
2. Spain doesn't have any military force that can defeat the Americans, the Spanish would be crushed.
3. Even if England and France sided with the CSA and defeted the Union they wouldn't occupy the entire USA.
 
The Brits, French, Spanish, and - I assume Prussians? - laugh nervously and then wonder whether Jeff Davis has been licking funny-colored frogs. When the Union takes Richmond in '65 they hang everyone remotely involved with the Confederate government.
 
PA is not predominantly German. Beyond that, a unified Germany did not exist in the 1860s.

This is 90 years after the Revolutionary War. If Britain intervenes it would be to secure cotton from the South, not to acquire land in America. Same with France, if not more so.

And how would the Confederates convince the Spanish of such a thing?

Edit: Also, the state of West Virginia would not exist.
 
the CSA enlists the 4 countries to help them with their cause, they promise to split the US.

The CSA scares the spanish into thinking that the USA will take over their colonies. the British wants to reclaim the colonies. the French wants to reclaim northern New France
And the Germans want to be soverign over the population of Pensilvania, which is predominantly German.

how will the co-exist after the war?

attached is the proposed theoretical Treaty of Richmond.

Blue = France
Yellow = Germany
Grey = CSA
Red = GB
Green = Spain

(this post is doubled in the ASB forum because i am not sure of the plauseability)

THE PLAN FOR ATTACK (anything to east of USA starts from sea)

..GB GB ESP
......\ | /
CSA- USA -DUE
......./ | \
ESP CSA FRA

The Germans aren't united at this time and have no naval force of significance, so they cannot take part. The Spanish have lost virtually all of their colonies, so such claims from the CSA don't work. The British and French probably don't want to fight side by side, and there's no reason for them to take the trouble of conquering a highly industrialized country when they can form colonies elsewhere just as easily. In short, this idea is utterly ASB, requiring several anachronisms and far too many illogical decisions from otherwise logical people.

Edit: Pennsylvania has a large number of Germans, who left in order to get away from it. Also, why would the French and Germans choose to conquer and administer landlocked areas?
 
As mentioned Germany doesn't exist yet, if France was so lunatic as to seek the return of New France she would be declaring war on Canada and England, Spain knows all too well that the CSA is the gravest threat to her colonies like Cuba...
 
1) Germany does not exist as a unified entity, and will not until 1871.

2) Spain has no ability to wage war on the US in anywhere near the implied manner, and gains nothing from it.

3) Britain and France only care about the CSA as far as cotton prices go, and don't particularly care about their independence.

4) None of these powers have any desire to go running around conquering America

5) Several of these nations have no ability to reach said territory without crossing other countries.

6) No way these nations would unite for this purpose (hell, the CSA as far as I know never even tried dispatching ministers to spain).

7) They all lack the ability to do this.

8) Assuming that all other military concerns (logistics not the least among them) are handwaved away, where do these countries get the will to annex a soverign country, how do they intend to hold it, and what makes this all worthwhile?

9) This scenario, for many other reasons, is impossible.
 
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