Stop with that science stuff--no one believes in science except when can make cool weapons.According to the current psychological studies:
A population that is on average more aggressive and more rebellious; a greater degree of child abuse; children who are, on average, worse-behaved.
According to the current psychological studies:
A population that is on average more aggressive and more rebellious; a greater degree of child abuse; children who are, on average, worse-behaved.
I attended secondary school in Scotland in the seventies when corporal punishment was fairly common.
It helped keep the well behaved pupils in line to some degree.
The poorly behaved pupils actually behaved in a worse manor due to peer pressure claiming they were scared. Unofficial records were kept to see who had the most strokes.
I dare say my american cousins psycology would be the same so I cannot see how behavoir whould be any better with a brutal discipline agenda
Current psychological studies.
After all, on this very board, someone (I think it was Susano) said genetic evidence proved humans and Neanderthals did not interbreed and now new genetic evidence has shown that they did.
Furthermore, children who are well-behaved might not need to be spanked in the first place. These studies might be confusing correlation with causation.
Furthermore, do the parents of the children getting spanked tie actions with consequences well ("Billy, you're being spanked because...") or are they just frustrated parents lashing out at their kids?
I can understand spanking producing dysfunctional kids if it's the latter case, but not the former.
Current science is all I can use, I'm afraid. I have surprisingly little access to psychological studies from the future. Also, I believe the correlation and causation are controlled for.
I'm not an expert on child psychology, you understand, so I'm just going from what casual knowledge I possess.
I attended secondary school in Scotland in the seventies when corporal punishment was fairly common.
It helped keep the well behaved pupils in line to some degree.
The poorly behaved pupils actually behaved in a worse manor due to peer pressure claiming they were scared. Unofficial records were kept to see who had the most strokes.
I dare say my american cousins psycology would be the same so I cannot see how behavoir whould be any better with a brutal discipline agenda
Friends tell me thats sorta the point of gangs.And alot more youth springing into gangs.
Well I foresee alot of problems with this. There would be alot of angry mothers. There would be a way higher drop out rate. And alot more youth springing into gangs.
Ah that's because that's an example of doing it wrong. Here in Singapore, schools have the option of retaining corporal punishment and as a trainee teacher I taught in a school much like the one you describe where caning just make the boys more defiant and rebellious. They were doing it wrong, just like your school.
You don't use it as a common punishment. If it's commonly dealt out then, as you say, collecting the most strokes turns into a contest of who's got the biggest balls. Caning is your nuclear option and should be used as such. Caning is used to humiliate a student and instill fear in the rest. Caning is your signal that the school authorities no longer cares about rehabilitation in this individual case and simply wishes to extract obedience through pain. It is not pleasant, it's not nice and it's not supposed to be.
Essentially you use caning for the most heinous of crimes, infractions that would receive something just short of expulsion- in cases of expulsion a caning should be administered before expulsion to make sure the (former) student knows that going against authority results in pain.
Yeah I'm not arguing that I'm just saying if you still had corporal punishment in schools I'm sure it would corelate to more youths joining gangs. Because you would definately have a higher drop out rate among those who got punished more often and some who got disciplined few times most likely. These youths could easily be coerced into established gangs of the area or lead to more gangs who may be more violent due to a more violent educational system.Friends tell me thats sorta the point of gangs.