Carthage because of Gregory as I stated earlier, and egypt because of the raging religious divide.
WI: Constans II Triumphant
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So the 642 pod yeah because gregory is dead in the 655 one
I believe the knockoff effects would be that a stronger Byzantine empire would prevent Kuber from settling in Macedonia, heck this could see Kubrats sons focus on coquering the Avars and Lombards.depens how good of a leader alt justinian II is
constantine IV migth still die in 680 or 690s if we look at his art
the man looked like a living corpse assuming constans dies in 670s or early 680s
he is leaving constantine IV with this .
Does anyone know of the religious affiliations of the Bulgars at this time?
Lady Visenya
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Strongly pagan.
They were still drinking from the gilded cloven skulls of their enemies after all.
Pagans and would continue to be for a long time
Kuber first rebelled against the avars instead of that a stronger Byzantine empire migth help him do more damage to the avar khaganate however it's unlikely he gets to be anything really kuber state didn't seem to last due to a variety of reasons that stil exist if asperuk migrated toward panonia as well after alt ongal we could see the avar khaganate collapse sooner even if the later crushed the bulgars
Well this is giving me ideas of Slavic Holy Roman Empire taking form in the future, as there were raids and invasions by the Slavs against the Lombard during this time.
Maybe depends when the avar khaganate dies because the latter had a relationship similar to that of the huns and the germanic tribes but with more mixing the avar khaganate even though in decline was master of the slavs of its region this vacuum would be replaced by Bulgaria and the franks
Well given the heights reached by the First Bulgarian Empire, it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination that there would be a line of ambitious and skilled rulers in future.
To be fair the reasons as to why the Bulgarian empire grew so big was a combination of their amazing leadership , sheir tenancy ( as seen when the dulos clan collapsed ) and Byzantine stupidity and betrayal ( see pliska and Versinikia)
Well (don't take this as condosending) you could try to make it
Well given how unstable the frankish realm got before the Carolingian dynasty, I would say the Bulgarians would have it easier than otl. Don't know about the poles and Moravians though
With victory at Benevento, abandon all African holdings and focus on Italy and the balkans
If the romans get Italy this would also have interesting implications for the franks (or later HRE) middle europe would probably look very different, maybe the byzantines could eventually use the fractured nature of the franks to build up some more political influence in western europe.
Lady Visenya
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Why would they abandon Africa unless forced? It produced revenues, not insignificant ones either. If not nearly as much as it had in the old days.