WI: Clemenceau got his way in the Treaty of Versailles

Of course south german mass immigration started before political immigration of 1871. But it accelerated with ... economic unification that started in the 1830's with the Zollverein.
 

Perkeo

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The Nazis actually were not that popular in Bavaria, they ended up with more support in the north actually. That was partly the work of the relentless campaigning by the Strassers.

State parliamental elections in 1924:
Prussia: 2.5% NSDAP
Bavaria: 17.1% NSDAP

Before 1932, the Nazis were a south German phenomenon, and even after that their popularity in Prussia was below not above average.

Source:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergebnisse_der_Landtagswahlen_in_der_Weimarer_Republik#Preu.C3.9Fen
 

Perkeo

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Of course south german mass immigration started before political immigration of 1871. But it accelerated with ... economic unification that started in the 1830's with the Zollverein.

Württemberg was a poor state even beforee this. Indeed, many Swabian success stories like Bosch and Daimler started after 1831/1871. The Zollverein and the unification gradually brought Württemberg OUT of poverty, not into it.
 
Do you think Switzerland needed uniting with a bigger Country to become the most prosperous european country ?

Bavaria and Wurtenberg would have developed anyway. And they would have been better off if they could have avoided the terrible tragedies and destructions that prussian militarism and expansionism brought upon all Germany.
 
The point between Hitler and the Bavarian opinionis: He was Bavarian, not Prussian, so was his movement. Your picture of poor innocent South Germany taken over by evil Prussia is wrong. Instead, the secession of Bavaria could prevent Prussia from contamination by the Bavarian Nazi-ideology.

Umm...Hitler was Austrian...not Bavarian.

The Nazis actually were not that popular in Bavaria, they ended up with more support in the north actually. That was partly the work of the relentless campaigning by the Strassers.

State parliamental elections in 1924:
Prussia: 2.5% NSDAP
Bavaria: 17.1% NSDAP

Before 1932, the Nazis were a south German phenomenon, and even after that their popularity in Prussia was below not above average.

Source:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergebnisse_der_Landtagswahlen_in_der_Weimarer_Republik#Preu.C3.9Fen

Wiking noted that "they ended up with more support in the north actually"", so quoting the results of the first elections they contested in doesn't actually discount his assertion.

Meanwhile your claim that "Before 1932, the Nazis were a south German phenomenon," doesn't seem to match up with at least these electoral maps (note the 1930 elections in particular) from this source: http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/g/germany/weimarmapsindex.shtml

May 1924:

nsdap1924-1.GIF


December 1924:

nsdap1924-2.GIF



May 1928:

nsdap1928.GIF



September 1930:

nsdap1930.GIF
 
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The Nazis actually were not that popular in Bavaria, they ended up with more support in the north actually. That was partly the work of the relentless campaigning by the Strassers.

State parliamental elections in 1924:
Prussia: 2.5% NSDAP
Bavaria: 17.1% NSDAP

Before 1932, the Nazis were a south German phenomenon, and even after that their popularity in Prussia was below not above average.

Source:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergebnisse_der_Landtagswahlen_in_der_Weimarer_Republik#Preu.C3.9Fen

Not wanting to link too many images in one post I will continue here.

As wiking noted, the Nazis actually ended up being more popular in northern Germany (particularly north-central and north-eastern Germany) than in Bavaria or southern Germany overall:

July 1932:

nsdap1932-1.GIF


November 1932:

nsdap1932-2.GIF



March 1933:

nsdap1933.GIF



This trend also seemed to extend within Bavaria itself as the Nazis were discernibly more popular in northern Bavaria in the 1924, 1930 and July 1932
elections than in southern Bavaria.
 
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