WI:Chiyou survives and wins against Huang Di

Is it possible Chiyou to win against the Sino-Tibetan tribes led by Huangdi, I am referring about the person behind the legend, how would a victorious Chiyou affect the relations between the Austronesian-Tai, Vietnamese, Miao, GoJoseon and Austro-Asiatics and would the Polynesians still expand to the Pacific?
 
You're dealing with a scenario which is semi-mythological. We don't know whether Chiyou or Huangdi or Shennong or Yan are really real or not. Maybe there was an epic battle. Maybe it was a skirmish. Maybe it was something retroactively invented to glorify someone in power. We just don't know and don't have conclusive evidence.

Face it: you have a totally irrational hatred against a certain cultural group, which is why almost every single one of your threads involves screwing it.
 
Face it: you have a totally irrational hatred against a certain cultural group, which is why almost every single one of your threads involves screwing it.
Errr what? Sounds like flamebaiting to me. Kasumi's threads run a gauntlet of nearly everything pre-1700 from what ive seen. That accusation of yours cant really stand.
 
You're dealing with a scenario which is semi-mythological. We don't know whether Chiyou or Huangdi or Shennong or Yan are really real or not. Maybe there was an epic battle. Maybe it was a skirmish. Maybe it was something retroactively invented to glorify someone in power. We just don't know and don't have conclusive evidence.

Face it: you have a totally irrational hatred against a certain cultural group, which is why almost every single one of your threads involves screwing it.


I don't want to screw the SinoTibetans, I just don't want the Hmongs be displaced and the expansions of the Chinese affected the Bai Yue and the Miao tribes causing them to be expelled to South East Asia causing the displacement of earlier expansions from Southern China such as the Mon-Khmer, I have nothing against the Chinese or any Cultural group, I just want to see a timeline where in the OTL South East Asians are in better condition not just barely surviving just like in OTL.
 
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Sumeragi

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This topic is a nuclear landmine. I'll just say that supposing the battles were real, Chiyu would need to completely annihilate Huangdi for your scenario to come up. There are records that Huangdi lost almost every battle but managed to survive for another day.

Aside from that..... well, unless you want to attract ultranationalists, we should keep things quiet.



Face it: you have a totally irrational hatred against a certain cultural group, which is why almost every single one of your threads involves screwing it.
Are you mixing me up with kasumigenx or something :confused:
 
I don't want to screw the SinoTibetans, I just don't want the Hmongs be displaced and the expansions of the Chinese affected the Bai Yue and the Miao tribes causing them to be expelled to South East Asia causing the displacement of earlier expansions from Southern China such as the Mon-Khmer, I have nothing against the Chinese or any Cultural group, I just want to see a timeline where in the OTL South East Asians are wanked not just barely surviving just like in OTL.

Then perhaps a more historical POD will work, like Zhao Tuo being unable to reach an agreement to reincorporate his kingdom into the Han Dynasty, eventually leading to a handful of Chinese-influenced but still independent kingdoms across southern China. To this day the southern limits of what is commonly considered Chinese would be around OTL Hunan and Sichuan.

By the way, the vast majority of historical Baiyue and Miao people were never "expelled". They were merely assimilated into successive dynasties.

Using a pre-historical POD really damages credibility.
 
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