WI China is the First Communist Nation

WI the Bolsheviks are stopped during the Russian Civil War and Russia doesn't become a communist nation. However, a few dozen years later Mao still gets lucky and manages to turn China communist.

What does this change? Would popular conceptions of communism thus be affected by racist views or anti-Eastern policies?
 
Could Mao have pulled off the Chinese Revolution without the aid of the Soviet Union, though?

Even ignoring that, getting rid of the USSR really throws a wrench into post-WW1 history, which makes it difficult to gauge what the world is like and so how the world would respond. For one thing, the Red Scare at the time in the US may be lessened. For a much more major thing, how did WW2 turn out? And no Communist Russia probably means no North Korea...
 
Seeing as the Chinese Communist Party was established mainly with Soviet aid in the 1920s, this is ASB.
However, it is possible for a Socialist China to arise, but the lack of Soviets will butterfly away the Communist Party of China and Mao too.
 
Why is Mao Zedong butterflied away? He was born in 1893, there's no reason for him not to exist.

I think it's very possible for some sort of Communist organization to form in China during the chaos of the post-Qing period. Of course the circumstances of the failure of the Bolsheviks matters a lot here- you might even have some Communist leaders flee to China. (Though I doubt that would ever lead to say, Stalin as Chinese dictator, that seems a bit silly)
 
Why is Mao Zedong butterflied away? He was born in 1893, there's no reason for him not to exist.

I'm not saying he won't exist, just that he won't be notable. His first involvement came during the First National Congress of the Communist Party of China, which was aided in its foundation by the Comintern IIRC. So no USSR means that that probably does not take place, so Mao does not join the Communist Party because it was not formed AIOTL.
 
I'm not saying he won't exist, just that he won't be notable. His first involvement came during the First National Congress of the Communist Party of China, which was aided in its foundation by the Comintern IIRC. So no USSR means that that probably does not take place, so Mao does not join the Communist Party because it was not formed AIOTL.
Well, Mao may still play a significant role in other ways.

By the way, while the USSR was involved with the founding of the CCP, they also supported the kind-of ruling KMT for a period as well- that would almost certainly have major effects on Chiang Kai-Shek and the Northern Expedition, unless whatever is in Russia TTL decides to support the KMT anyway.
 
Could Mao have pulled off the Chinese Revolution without the aid of the Soviet Union, though?

Even ignoring that, getting rid of the USSR really throws a wrench into post-WW1 history, which makes it difficult to gauge what the world is like and so how the world would respond. For one thing, the Red Scare at the time in the US may be lessened. For a much more major thing, how did WW2 turn out? And no Communist Russia probably means no North Korea...

No USSR probably means no World War II, or at least a very, very different one.

You're right that there won't be a North Korea.

Just as important as Soviet aid was the example set by the Soviet Communists to Communists in other countries: that a revolution could succeed and a Communist state could be established.
 
Arguably, so is the Guomindang.

Unless they can turn to somebody else?

Arise, the Co-Prosperity Sphere?
Hm... it seems unreasonable that Russia will stay out of China just because it's non-communist, though. I could see a theoretical Russian Republic aiding the Kuomintang to maintain stability in the Far East.

Of course, if both the KMT and the CCP are sidelined, and none of the warlords can come to prominence over the country, then it does seem like an ideal situation for Japan.
 
A communist China would probably attract little symapthy from the West during the Japanese invasion. Therefore, no US oil embargo on Japan, and hence no Pearl Harbour.
 
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