WI Charlie Wilson loses election in 82 or 84

Well, it's difficult to tell whether in the long run this will be good or bad for Afghanistan.

It's like the story of the little boy and the Zen master. See, there's a little boy, and on his fourteenth birthday he gets a horse. And everybody in the village says "How wonderful, the boy got a horse!", and the Zen master says "We'll see". Two years later the boy falls off the horse, breaks his leg, and everybody in the village says "How terrible!" and the Zen master says "We'll see". Then, a war breaks out, and all the young men have to go off and fight, except the boy can't, 'cause his leg is all messed up, and everybody in the village says "How wonderful!"...
 
Personally the Soviets won't have there hinds shot down from with out them so they will be able to hold on longer..

Other wise tho Al-Quida might not get started in this time line.
 

nastle

Banned
Nothing

The chinease wud still sell afghan bandits weapons and the ISI would find some other western MANPAD for them.

it was not like one man brought down the mighty soviet empire, it makes good movies but real life is not as simple
 
Nothing

The chinease wud still sell afghan bandits weapons and the ISI would find some other western MANPAD for them.

it was not like one man brought down the mighty soviet empire, it makes good movies but real life is not as simple

I don't think it's that cut and dry.

The Stingers is what did the majority of the damage.
 

nastle

Banned
I don't think it's that cut and dry.

The Stingers is what did the majority of the damage.
Yes they did a lot of damage but so did the AK-47, dushka, rockets etc
its a cumulative effect
First of all its questionable if there was no Charlie then the bandits would have got no MANPADs
 

nastle

Banned
Personally the Soviets won't have there hinds shot down from with out them so they will be able to hold on longer..

Other wise tho Al-Quida might not get started in this time line.
when Pakistan Bhutto hosted the OIC in 74 he and the arab leaders already had plans for a moslem revival movement if not in 79 maybe later

The hinds shot down was annoying to the soviets but main reason soviets left was economics not wartime losses.
 
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