WI: Case yellow fails

Apologies if this has been done allready, search does not want to co-operate today.

Axis victory in WW2 has been beaten to death, but how about an earlier defeat. Polish campaign may have been difficult at times but Soviet attack sealed their fate

What are the results of German defeat in France? Lets replace Gamelin as commander and have a successful counter attack cutting of the panzers and stopping them reaching channel and subsequent advance to Germany.

Could nazis remain in power? What would Soviet Union do in Poland? How would failed German war affect Japan in the Pacific?
 
Oh, i'm sure its been done before. You don't give a lot of detail, but i got a big imagination, and i like using my imagination.

Well using the points you just used, i would say the results are pretty much same as WWI, with France forcing German surrender and let them pay for repairations and totally disband their army, humiliating them yet again. The nazi party would be fully arrested and put in prison for the crimes against peace and humanity. Most would probably kill themselves before sentencing or arrest. Some would flee and stay out of harms way for many years. Then, civil war in Germany?

The Soviet Union would at first do nothing and see this as great opportunity to prepare to dominate Europe themselves to defeat the capitalists. Hungary and Romania would be good first targets but there is a large chance the Fascist governments would be overthrown once Germany is defeated, same goes for Bulgaria. Maybe even Italy? It would still be very plausible that the USSR would atttack these countries, maybe when word of Hungarian involvement in the Holocaust came out. The allies would probably be sick and tired of annexations, they would not fall for it twice i think. USSR already attacked Finland, some kind of other invasion would probably prompt the Allies to war with the USSR.

Japan would still be fighting China, running low of supplies and the USA would definitly embargo them, so there is a large chance the Japanese would still attack the pacific. Resulting in a crushing defeat against the Allies. This leaves options open for the KMT versus Mao.

I do believe a confrontation between the Allies and Comintern would have followed a German defeat against France.

Well, thats my imagination going rampant.
 
Apologies if this has been done allready, search does not want to co-operate today.

Axis victory in WW2 has been beaten to death, but how about an earlier defeat. Polish campaign may have been difficult at times but Soviet attack sealed their fate

What are the results of German defeat in France? Lets replace Gamelin as commander and have a successful counter attack cutting of the panzers and stopping them reaching channel and subsequent advance to Germany.

Could nazis remain in power? What would Soviet Union do in Poland? How would failed German war affect Japan in the Pacific?

No it has been done often. People on AH forums don't usually like Germany losing too early.

The problem with replacing Gamelin is that when the French did that they replaced him with Weygand an even older guy who had been sitting in Syria.

The only way to inflict a defeat on the Germans in 1940 would have been if the Allies had just sat in their prepared positions on the Belgian frontier and left the Belgians to hang out to dry (as I think they should have).

Without the best Allied units not trapped in Belgium and forced into a hasty retreat to the coast then the Allied could have dealt with the panzer units that broke through the Ardennes. Even with air superiority the Germans would have taken heavy losses if they persisted in an advance to the channel coast. Within weeks a semi static war would have emerged for which the Allies were better prepared than the Germans.

Another side effect would have been that the Norwegian campaign may have dragged on too. The USSR would have began large scale blackmailing of Germany by the summer of 1940.
 
Lets replace Gamelin as commander and have a successful counter attack cutting of the panzers and stopping them reaching channel and subsequent advance to Germany.

Let's even leep Gamelin - as it happens he ordered the counterattacks, but then was replaced by Weygand who put the orders on hold for three days, losing the last chance to cut the armored spearheads from their infantry.

The best and brightest of German and Allied officers would clash in Belgium (one can imagine the devastation there, with three armies and air forces throwing everything but the kitchen sink into the battle).

If the German officers seized the opportunity to depose Hitler and propose a peaceful issue to the war (which would mean letting go of most of Polish, Czech and Austrian land, most probably) the Allied governments might just jump on the offer.
 
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