WI Bush wins in '92?

No Breyer or Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. I forget the Senate makeup at the time, but could Bush I get conservatives on the Court?
 
No Republican Revolution, though the GOP will take Congress by 2002 IMO. None of the OTL Clinton agenda is enacted, and most likely you have Gore v. Bradley and Alexander v. Kemp in the '96 primaries. In the general, I'd say Gore v. Alexander, Gore wins.
 
No Republican Revolution, though the GOP will take Congress by 2002 IMO. None of the OTL Clinton agenda is enacted, and most likely you have Gore v. Bradley and Alexander v. Kemp in the '96 primaries. In the general, I'd say Gore v. Alexander, Gore wins.

Dole's next in line, RB. Gore v. Dole, Dole gets his butt kicked worse.
 
The President has very little control over the economy as it is, plus the fact that both Clinton and Bush would have had Greenspan during the time period in question. Both would sign NAFTA into law, both would trim spending, and both would pursue a middle of the road agenda on stimulus matters. So you have a pretty similar four years.
 

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No Breyer or Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. I forget the Senate makeup at the time, but could Bush I get conservatives on the Court?

Bush appointed Thomas, but also appointed Souter. There's certainly no guarantee he'd stack the Court in any direction.
 
The President has very little control over the economy as it is, plus the fact that both Clinton and Bush would have had Greenspan during the time period in question. Both would sign NAFTA into law, both would trim spending, and both would pursue a middle of the road agenda on stimulus matters. So you have a pretty similar four years.

So Bush's second term would have pretty much been Clinton's first term?
 
Pretty much, except no push for health care reform or gays in the military. Bush and Clinton were both pragmatists (and centrists) who operated from the mindset that what was best for the country trumped what was best for their interest groups. That's why Bush did compromise with Congress on taxes, even though he promised not to in 1988.

If you want a really different 1990s, than get a Cuomo or Perot presidency.
 
Pretty much, except no push for health care reform or gays in the military. Bush and Clinton were both pragmatists (and centrists) who operated from the mindset that what was best for the country trumped what was best for their interest groups. That's why Bush did compromise with Congress on taxes, even though he promised not to in 1988.

If you want a really different 1990s, than get a Cuomo or Perot presidency.

Would Bush have done some things different foreign-policy wise?
 
I'm not sure if he would have pushed NATO eastward like Clinton did. Russia might be a lot closer now.
Meanwhile there is the whole Lawrence Walsh indictments thing to worry about...
 
It certainly could have interesting implications for NASA. IOTL the first Clinton term saw any beyond-LEO missions canned and Freedom turned into the International Space Station. Bush Sr. was (personally) extremely pro-Moon/Mars. I can easily imagine him pushing for joint US/Russian moon missions.
 
Foreign relations are handled better. Basically, Clinton started from scratch on Bosnia and Somalia and such. Bush wouldn't, moving those things up.
I'm not sure about Russia though. I'd like to think Bush would be smarter than that, but his Cabinet says otherwise...
 
Bush Sr. was very much pro-NASA. Unfortunately, the relevant House and Senate Science and Technology committees weren't. Bush Sr's plan to go back to the moon (announced on the 20th anniversary of Apollo 11's landing) and go on to Mars never made it past those committees.

He was also more willing to listen to military commanders; for example: when Schwartzkopf asked for VII Corps to fight the ground war in DESERT STORM, Bush gave it to him. So if commanders in Somalia say they need heavy armor and AC-130s to get their job done, they'll get what they need.
 
Bush gets hammered over the economy, but the Democrats probably do better on working with him to reduce the deficit. We might actually have a GOP President in the post-Eisenhower era able to produce a balanced budget :)eek:)

In 1996, the Republican nomination is Dole's. Period. Dole will promptly get his ass handed to him by Al Gore.
 
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