FBKampfer
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Huh? The US gets whacked by some whack-jobs and striking back is a sign of Fascism?
Wow.
I don't think you understand what fascism is. What Cheney preached and practiced is almost the text book definition of fascism.
Huh? The US gets whacked by some whack-jobs and striking back is a sign of Fascism?
Wow.
The ability of the fire of the ordinary office stuff to weaken the structure of the towers.
Hm, that looked like exposed steel though, while I'm pretty sure the twin towers were supported with steel encased in concrete. Still, my point was that without a direct impact, there's going to no chance of bringing down tower 2 via fire.Short answer - ask any firefighter (I have one handy in my family) as it's a known hazard. I watched the buildings burn that morning in a room full of experienced engineers of various disciplines and given the extent of the fires none of them were surprised at the result.
Limited comparison, but an example of the effects of an average office burning on structural steel were simulated here (there is a tonne of other information out there as well) :
https://www.steelconstruction.info/Structural_fire_engineering#Cardington_fire_tests
The load bearing capacity gets reduced and there is physical distortion which can affect the loading of undamaged parts of the structure.
The thing is it was not simply fire that collapsed high-rise buildings on 9/11. It was a combination of fire effects on structures already damaged by impacts (either from aircraft or other buildings). The effect of the jet fuel was to simultaneously ignite fires in multiple locations on multiple floors and the building contents did the rest once the fuel had burned off.
What about debris from AAL11 and Tower 1?Hm, that looked like exposed steel though, while I'm pretty sure the twin towers were supported with steel encased in concrete. Still, my point was that without a direct impact, there's going to no chance of bringing down tower 2 via fire.
I’m saying this as a Republican in all but name:
It is really disturbing that we have to work down to Powell to find a decent man...
And I was hearing on the radio that same evening that it was Osama who was responsible. I learned several years later that the government had known Al Qaida was going to do something that day. They had no idea what... until it happened, when things became horrifyingly clear.
IMO more likely to cause a structural collapse directly than start fires that would do it, but even then only by hitting the base.What about debris from AAL11 and Tower 1?
Most people do not understand what Fascism is.I don't think you understand what fascism is. What Cheney preached and practiced is almost the text book definition of fascism.
I think the base would have minor damage from flying debris, but that's it.IMO more likely to cause a structural collapse directly than start fires that would do it, but even then only by hitting the base.
When tower 1 fell the impact damaged the foundation of tower 2 so it is possibleHm, that looked like exposed steel though, while I'm pretty sure the twin towers were supported with steel encased in concrete. Still, my point was that without a direct impact, there's going to no chance of bringing down tower 2 via fire.