WI: British Philippines?

Let's say Britain somehow manages to go beyond Manila during the Seven Years War and takes the Philippines from Spain at the end of the war. How would a British Philippines look like by the 19th and 20th centuries?
 
Very different?
One very important question.
Would the Philippines be under East India Company rule or crown rule at first?
 
Very different?
One very important question.
Would the Philippines be under East India Company rule or crown rule at first?

It would be EIC rule since they are the ones that conquered it.

As for how it would look later, I can imagine it would be a similar structure of governance to that in Malaya and Borneo. A combination of British territory, protectorates and a few filibusters that gradually get absorbed together.

The more interesting issue is how it affects British development in East Asia. The Macartney expedition suffered from a lack of translators into local languages and reduced cultural understanding. They ruled out visiting Japan on this basis. I imagine its equivalent ITTL would fare a lot better.
 
This is going to be the time I awkwardly mention that the British seized Manila, but couldn't handle Luzon, let alone the rest of the Peninsula. There was a big upsurge in Muslim piracy during the British period.
 
It might need an earlier POD wherein the Pagans survive an earlier famine and a stronger revolt in Batangas during that time.
 
This is going to be the time I awkwardly mention that the British seized Manila, but couldn't handle Luzon, let alone the rest of the Peninsula. There was a big upsurge in Muslim piracy during the British period.

They could have had Ilocano help. Diego Silang sent them a missive, IIRC. Their help would probably be crucial to a British Philippines, with the Ilocanos being given some sort of protectorate status over the northern third of Luzon.
 
They could have had Ilocano help. Diego Silang sent them a missive, IIRC. Their help would probably be crucial to a British Philippines, with the Ilocanos being given some sort of protectorate status over the northern third of Luzon.
Ilocanos might not even get Cagayan valley and Pangasinan because they only penetrated Pangasinan and Cagayan Valley on 19th century..
 
Ilocanos might not be even get Cagayan valley because they only penetrated Pangasinan and Cagayan Valley on 19th century..

Fair enough, but I assume it'd be a simple thing for the British to demarcate it to a Ilocano Protectorate.

On another note, religion would be an interesting issue here. Catholicism was already a deeply rooted thing in the mid-18th century, at least in the 'civilized' regions like Ilocos and the Tagalog heartland. Despite the abuses of the friars and the local authorities, Silang and his followers kept the Catholic religion. I wonder how they'd interact with the Anglicans.

Oh, and there's also this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaris
 
Fair enough, but I assume it'd be a simple thing for the British to demarcate it to a Ilocano Protectorate.

On another note, religion would be an interesting issue here. Catholicism was already a deeply rooted thing in the mid-18th century, at least in the 'civilized' regions like Ilocos and the Tagalog heartland. Despite the abuses of the friars and the local authorities, Silang and his followers kept the Catholic religion. I wonder how they'd interact with the Anglicans.

Oh, and there's also this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaris

That is why I said a stronger pagan heartland is a good POD..for that invasion to succeed.
 
That is why I said a stronger pagan heartland is a good POD..for that invasion to succeed.

That would take a secondary PoD before this one. The British could have co-opted the Christian peoples just as easily, if they did the right things. After all, the high church Anglicans are basically Catholics without the Pope, or the abusive friars, which might appeal to some.
 
That would take a secondary PoD before this one. The British could have co-opted the Christian peoples just as easily, if they did the right things. After all, the high church Anglicans are basically Catholics without the Pope, or the abusive friars, which might appeal to some.
What they need is for the Macabebe warriors to ally with the British..
 
That would take a secondary PoD before this one. The British could have co-opted the Christian peoples just as easily, if they did the right things. After all, the high church Anglicans are basically Catholics without the Pope, or the abusive friars, which might appeal to some.

This is not how the English saw things at all.
 

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It depends. Does the Philippines get the the Somalia, the Bangladesh or the Canadian Native American treatment?
 
After all, the high church Anglicans are basically Catholics without the Pope, or the abusive friars, which might appeal to some.

By the time of the Seven Years War, the Anglican Church had substantially diverged from Catholicism, though the Oxford Movement a while later brought a few Catholic elements back.

Honestly, I expect the British to treat the Philippines like India. Naturally, unless Britain realizes this, I expect some trouble from highly Hispanized Filipino society.
 
This is not how the English saw things at all.
By the time of the Seven Years War, the Anglican Church had substantially diverged from Catholicism, though the Oxford Movement a while later brought a few Catholic elements back.

Honestly, I expect the British to treat the Philippines like India. Naturally, unless Britain realizes this, I expect some trouble from highly Hispanized Filipino society.

I see. Well, this might make things difficult. Still, if the British take the Philippines, it's likely that they'd keep it.
 
This is going to be the time I awkwardly mention that the British seized Manila, but couldn't handle Luzon, let alone the rest of the Peninsula. There was a big upsurge in Muslim piracy during the British period.

Didn't isn't the same as couldn't. And likelihood isn't the same as possibility.
 
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