WI: Britain was allied with Napoleon

What if Britain had allied itself with Napoleon, say their was a more militant liberal movement, or ASBs did it whatever, what would happen it this came about, and how do you think it could happen.

I know theirs a lot of tension, but any POD is fine by me, as long as it gets this result, preferably with a strong Britain.
 
Needs more information. The way this militant liberal movement (pretty ASB in itself) comes to power (even more ASB) would need to be defined to give us an indication of how they are likely to treat with Napoleon. You're going to get one of two possibilities really: the British "liberals" looking up to Napoleon and essentially acting as his backup, a la how the UK supports the USA in the present day, or they're going to see themselves as more important or equals of Napoleon, causing the two allies to bicker over how to divide their winnings, probably causing the fragmenting of the alliance - France and the UK had overlapping ambitions so it's going to be hard to find a compromise.

Also, it's important to remember that Napoleon wasn't a liberal. He was a visionary who manipulated a popular movement to come to power. He declared himself Emperor in 1804 remember, that's not really a very liberal act. If he does that in this timeline, it's going to be no holds barred and the two countries will go at it like it was the mediaeval era all over again - and this time it will be the British who are the less acceptable to Europe when it comes to alliances.

But really the whole scenario is ASB from the start - Napoleon had a lot of popularity among the masses in Britain, but he would never get a friendly Parliament. He was anathema to British politics.
 
I could see a possibility in a more radical UK aligning itself with a pure revolutionary France but with Napoleon?

Really need explanation here.
Is this post successful Napoleonic invasion of England?
 

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I could see a possibility in a more radical UK aligning itself with a pure revolutionary France but with Napoleon?

Really need explanation here.
Is this post successful Napoleonic invasion of England?

That is unlikely. Even if the French had gotten an army ashore, it would have to have been a small one due to logistics limitations and would be facing nearly 200,000 British troops. Napoleon's Army of Germany was only this size. It's a bit of a sealion....
 
That is unlikely. Even if the French had gotten an army ashore, it would have to have been a small one due to logistics limitations and would be facing nearly 200,000 British troops. Napoleon's Army of Germany was only this size. It's a bit of a sealion....

Nah, its unlikely but not totally impossible ala sealion.
Its the only way to make this work though.
 
Impossible. It is an intresting idea, but I don't think the British of the day would of allied with France. In the period Britain and France were natural enemies, and only fought on the same side once. The British were too opposed to Bonapartist ambitions and having a strong France would of completely underminded Britains position and foreign policy.
 
Why?

Britain was busy demolishing France as a rival all of the previous century. Why would that suddenly change?
 
What if Britain had allied itself with Napoleon, say their was a more militant liberal movement, or ASBs did it whatever, what would happen it this came about, and how do you think it could happen.

I know theirs a lot of tension, but any POD is fine by me, as long as it gets this result, preferably with a strong Britain.

It's not about liberal politics or whatever- the basic tenet of British foreign policy up 'til the First World War was that in order to safeguard Britain no one country could be allowed to dominate Europe. In order to protect British interests Britain would support the lesser European powers against any country that seemed to be gaining dominance. For most of the modern era after the decline of the Hapsburgs this was France until Germany gained ascendancy on the Continent whereupon bridges were mended with France and British policy started to turn against Germany.
 
If this were to happen ("if" being the key word;)), this is what happens next: British and French diplomats meet in a little room somewhere with a plain map and start dividing the world between each other. Because an Anglo-French alliance at this point in history would be basically unstoppable.
 
If this were to happen ("if" being the key word;)), this is what happens next: British and French diplomats meet in a little room somewhere with a plain map and start dividing the world between each other. Because an Anglo-French alliance at this point in history would be basically unstoppable.

That's why I was interested, Britain has the world's Premier Navy, and France has the World's Premier Army. Between them and their respective allies they could dominate the globe. It did seem unlikely to me, but I was hoping someone could come up with an idea about this, maybe just based on a 'revolutionary France' that still went through Napoleonic reforms. as in a fair and swift code of conduct for government.
 
That's why I was interested, Britain has the world's Premier Navy, and France has the World's Premier Army. Between them and their respective allies they could dominate the globe. It did seem unlikely to me, but I was hoping someone could come up with an idea about this, maybe just based on a 'revolutionary France' that still went through Napoleonic reforms. as in a fair and swift code of conduct for government.

The only way I can see a peace, and then eventual alliance, between Britain and France is the Peace of Amiens lasting. Perhaps if Boney doesn't declare war on Britain in 1803 and instead turned his attentions to befriending the British government. But even so the possibility is still highly unlikely.

OR

On a completely ridiculous level. England wins the 100 years war, and eventually becomes the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and France. Napoleon is born as per standard time line and rises to pre eminence in the united country.
 
Napoleon is like the south pole of a magnet and Britain the north, the two cannot peace fully coexist, if napoleon had manged to retain his power, it doesn't take any great twist of though to see Britain allying itself with the German Empire when it emerges.

this, of course, makes for a smashingly interesting first world war, but you have the slight problem of creating the german empire when the franco-prussian war isn't such a one sided conflict.
 
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