Also, Brazil has other areas where they can move people, it's not so densly populated.
Could the Cerrado support a higher population ITTL? I know it can be semi-arid, but it is good cattle country, and can be used for crops like sorghum.
Also, Brazil has other areas where they can move people, it's not so densly populated.
Could the Cerrado support a higher population ITTL? I know it can be semi-arid, but it is good cattle country, and can be used for crops like sorghum.
Could the Cerrado support a higher population ITTL? I know it can be semi-arid, but it is good cattle country, and can be used for crops like sorghum.
Something like the Canabagem is still likely to happen there.
Also, one more thing, without Amazonia, there goes big part of reasons to have Brazilia as capital.
In Araguari and surrounding region, perhaps.
Another good location might be somewhere in Western Minas Gerais.
OK, but Brazil also has other resources, like coffee, sugar, woods, gold, diamonds etc. They also wouldn't have to invest in that area too, administration also costs.
Also, Brazil has other areas where they can move people, it's not so densly populated.
Of course, how Brazilian (and world) history will go, its a bit harder to determine.
(if Equinoctial France is a thing, then its pretty much an alien world. I'm considering scenarios 2 and 3)
Will this butterfly the failure of the Cisplatine war, for example? Maybe Brazil scores Cisplatine, and instead Dom Pedro I leaves after Brazil loses a war against Grão-Pará.
IOTL, there was a lot of Portuguese immigration to Brazil, post-independence even. We might see more or less colonists in either country.
The Portuguese will probably focus more on their Grão-Pará colony. One advantage here is that Grão-Pará is already ruled from Lisbon, its not ruled from Rio. This might mean, focus shifts to Grão-Pará, instead of the OTL shift to the African colonies. This might actually end up aborting the Cabanagem, if the Portuguese pay more attention to Grão-Pará. The Liberal Courts are a problem.
We might get at least one or even more wars between the two countries. I believe war or no war are both likely, because both peoples are culturally not very much aggressive and warmongering. A Brazilian War of 1812, so to say. The more time passes, the more probable I find that the status quo solidifies and Grão-Pará becomes Brazil's Canada, so to say.
Anyone knows the state of the Portuguese Armed Forces, post-1822?
Tbut I can't see how Rio can't retain Mato Grosso in its control.
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Interesting ideas Miguel. Don't know how realistic are say Cabanagem suceeding?
Yes, I agree that Brazil will probably want more Uruguay if they don't have Grao Para. I agree that independent Grao Para will become Brazil's Canada, so to say. On the other hand, Grao Para will need foreign protection ( not only Portugal, but probably Britain or France ), because I think that other South American countries like Colombia, Venezuela, Peru etc. will also try to take at least some parts.
Because of importance of rivers as means of communication, before railways are built.