WI: BOTH Burr & Hamilton Survive Their Duel?

What the title says. After all, many duels were(happily)bloodless affairs with neither
participant being hurt or killed. Suppose, say, somehow Burr does get a twinge of
conscience & NOT shoot to kill? Or Hamilton
does hit Burr, incapacitating him for any further action that fateful day, but Burr does
later recover & not die?(Gore Vidal’s classic historical novel BURR declares that, contrary to most historical accounts, Hamilton act-
ually fired first but hit not Burr but a tree branch). So after this duel what would then
happen to its two participants? And how
would American history be changed(if @ all?)
 
They will soon end up in another feud and agree to another duel, this time with swords.
Andrew Jackson will then get disgusted by the NOOBery being displayed by Burr and Hamilton and decides to duel them both by himself blindfolded to show everyone how it's done.
 
My guess would be that Burr might be able to assert some influence within the Democratic-Republican Party, however, he wouldn't be able to assert enough influence to usurp the Dem-Rep establishment of the time. Maybe Burr would start an earlier fracturing of the Democratic-Republicans?

As for Hamilton, by 1804 his career was already over. The Reynolds Affair had severely hurt his reputation (not as much as the musical implies, but still) and the Federalist Party was screwed. As tensions rise with the British, Hamilton's credibility will be further diminished, although I do like the idea of General Alexander Hamilton invading British Canada in an alternate Wat of 1812.
 
My guess would be that Burr might be able to assert some influence within the Democratic-Republican Party, however, he wouldn't be able to assert enough influence to usurp the Dem-Rep establishment of the time. Maybe Burr would start an earlier fracturing of the Democratic-Republicans?

As for Hamilton, by 1804 his career was already over. The Reynolds Affair had severely hurt his reputation (not as much as the musical implies, but still) and the Federalist Party was screwed. As tensions rise with the British, Hamilton's credibility will be further diminished, although I do like the idea of General Alexander Hamilton invading British Canada in an alternate Wat of 1812.
Wasnt he (and the Federalist at large) strongly pro british, anti french and against the the war? They were even some federalist that arged for seperatism in New England in case of war with England. Wasnt Hamilton himself one of those federalist that demanded a declaration of war against France?
 
Wasnt he (and the Federalist at large) strongly pro british, anti french and against the the war? They were even some federalist that arged for seperatism in New England in case of war with England. Wasnt Hamilton himself one of those federalist that demanded a declaration of war against France?
Yup. That's why, assuming an alternate War of 1812 breaks out, Alexander Hamilton's reputation would further diminish due to growing opposition to the British.
 
Yup. That's why, assuming an alternate War of 1812 breaks out, Alexander Hamilton's reputation would further diminish due to growing opposition to the British.
I know that of late there is a lot of interest in the figure of Hamilton thanks to the musical and thats good, he is an interesting historical character and that was a good musical, but I think it would we more interesting to expeculate on the macro consequences of a more successful federalist party or at least the early success of their politics regarding foreign relations. What would we of an America that avoids the War of 1812 and declares war on France instead? Would that be plausible?
 
I know that of late there is a lot of interest in the figure of Hamilton thanks to the musical and thats good, he is an interesting historical character and that was a good musical, but I think it would we more interesting to expeculate on the macro consequences of a more successful federalist party or at least the early success of their politics regarding foreign relations. What would we of an America that avoids the War of 1812 and declares war on France instead? Would that be plausible?
Well, the POD for this thread is that Hamilton and Burr survive their duel, which is, at least in my opinion, too late for the Federalist Party. Their leadership is fractured, Jefferson is popular, and the Embargo Act of 1807 is just around the corner, so we won't be seeing a Federalist Party resurgence any time soon.

As for your question about what a Franco-American War would look like, all you would need to do is escalate the Quasi-War of the 1790s into an actual declaration of war. With the French focusing on the War of the First Coalition, a French victory seems unlikely, so maybe we would see an American Haiti and violently seized Louisiana ITTL.

However, this is assuming Spain, which I think was France's ally at the time doesn't join the war. If it does, things will really escalate.
 
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