WI: Black Death kills toll is doubled everywhere

What happens in the long term?

  • European Dominated World

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Asian Dominated World

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Collapse of most European civilizations

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Milan and Poland dominate Europe

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Collapse of most Islamic civilizations

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Religiosity is more extreme

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • People turn away from religion

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chinese Golden Age

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Rapid repopulation

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Slow repopulation; centuries to recover

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Collapse of most Asian civilizations

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Medical advances follow, such as construction of hospitals

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Net positive for the world

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Net negative for the world

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • More urbanization

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • More people live in rural communities

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • European Dark Age

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Islamic Dark Age

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Jews are better off

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Jews are worse off

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Total voters
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BlueThunder25

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Places that had a death toll in OTL of a third of people become two thirds. This happens everywhere the plague reached in OTL and it still spreads at the same speed to the same places as OTL. Milan's death toll becomes 30% for example. Also, the noble and clergy death count is twice as big too so it is not only peasants.

The maximum kill percentage for anywhere is 97% dead, which means some cities become virtually uninhabited.

The Black Death ultimately was beneficial to Europe IOTL, but this is a scale of death that is similar to the Native Americans. I expect this to be a major setback for the world as a whole and a complete catastrophe in Europe.

Anyone have ideas of what happens next? Or anything to add?
 

CalBear

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This is not "gratuitous". It has context behind it and I am interested to know the results of if this happened.
How does the disease manage to double a death rate that was already extraordinary without divine intervention?

Right now I see a lot of hand wave in order to jack up fatalities.
 

BlueThunder25

Gone Fishin'
How does the disease manage to double a death rate that was already extraordinary without divine intervention?

Right now I see a lot of hand wave in order to jack up fatalities.
Ok. I am fine with this being considered ASB and having the thread moved. I don't understand what you mean by jack up fatalities. I don't wish this happened. I am just interested to know what would have happened considering there is and will be the threat of bioweapons that cause this much devastation in the future.
 
If even more persons are dying of plague and that most of the upper classes such as nobility and clergy are dying then Europe might see its intellectual and political elites decimated, dooming the continent for the following decades.

The depopulation of some cities might disturb the economy of some places.

On the other hand, the lack of labour might even more tip the balance in favour of the tenants compared to OTL.
 

Vuru

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Ah another absolute madman thread

You'd need the plague to be amplified with airborne aidsebola, definitely ASB

Unless someone like deliberately goes around infecting everyone, but on a massive scale
 

CalBear

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Ok. I am fine with this being considered ASB and having the thread moved. I don't understand what you mean by jack up fatalities. I don't wish this happened. I am just interested to know what would have happened considering there is and will be the threat of bioweapons that cause this much devastation in the future.
This is ASB.

If it was moved there it would be locked as a pointless mass death scenario since there is apparently no POD that can make it possible beyond "because".

That being the case, locked.
 
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