WI: Baby Jesus dies?

Only reading the first few posts of this thread I apologize for stepping on any already discussed things. But since this is a predominately historical site. Why don't we think of Jesus in the historical sense not the mythological. Jesus was simply a Jew who was teaching a new philosophy which tends to have some Buddhist principles engrained into the traditional Jewish mythos. His teachings were anti-Roman in every bit. I say if Jesus died in his infancy we could possibly see a less hostile world. As when Christianity took over a large amount of bloodshed was dealt by them in the name of their god. I agree that someone else could have taken over the reigns and established a similar following. I doubt it. I also agree that Islam would probably take over the region and other large swathes of land. While paganism may stay intact in Europe.
 
Some comments as an agnostic:

Only reading the first few posts of this thread I apologize for stepping on any already discussed things. But since this is a predominately historical site. Why don't we think of Jesus in the historical sense not the mythological. Jesus was simply a Jew who was teaching a new philosophy which tends to have some Buddhist principles engrained into the traditional Jewish mythos. His teachings were anti-Roman in every bit. I say if Jesus died in his infancy we could possibly see a less hostile world. As when Christianity took over a large amount of bloodshed was dealt by them in the name of their god. I agree that someone else could have taken over the reigns and established a similar following. I doubt it. I also agree that Islam would probably take over the region and other large swathes of land. While paganism may stay intact in Europe.

1) A less hostile world how?
2) See above. The pre-Christian days of Rome weren't exactly for the squeamish.
3) How the heck is Islam even forming here?
4) Paganism is kind of too broad to mean anything here.
 
Islam is born out of Christianity, like Christianity is born out of Judaism.

And if Islam did somehow get formed when Christianity doesn't, it would be just as bloody a world.
 
I never said it would not be hostile just not as hostile as with the Christians. As an agnostic you should understand this. A significant amount of blood was shed by Christians in the name of their god. Now they continue that but with less blood more armageddon coming talk. I'm not a big scholar on Islam but can you explain to me why there would not be Islam with out Christians? I meant for paganism to be broad. I'm saying with out the conquering of Christianity in Europe. The various local pagan beliefs could stay intact for longer. So in my mind a world without Jesus. Would mean less institutionalized religion more localized religion would pertain. But I have no clue not big on religion here. I believe in very few things they are man, space, history, and myself. And I am more inclined to believe that some other-dimensional beings(alien) could be the forbearers of religion to this world. But who knows certainly not myself. Never felt the holy spirit in me.
 
I never said it would not be hostile just not as hostile as with the Christians. As an agnostic you should understand this. A significant amount of blood was shed by Christians in the name of their god.

And a significant amount of that blood would have been shed anyway. Discounting the Truce of God and such Christian ideas for the sake of argument. Saying Christianity has been a net increase to the violence of our species is giving humanity too much credit and treating Christianity as arbitrarily an influence for the worse.

Being an agnostic doesn't have anything to do with anything here.

Now they continue that but with less blood more armageddon coming talk. I'm not a big scholar on Islam but can you explain to me why there would not be Islam with out Christians?

You've changed the landscape of the East and things are going to go as OTL? Not to mention any religious role of Christianity in the influences on Mohammad.

I meant for paganism to be broad. I'm saying with out the conquering of Christianity in Europe. The various local pagan beliefs could stay intact for longer. So in my mind a world without Jesus. Would mean less institutionalized religion more localized religion would pertain. But I have no clue not big on religion here. I believe in very few things they are man, space, history, and myself. And I am more inclined to believe that some other-dimensional beings(alien) could be the forbearers of religion to this world. But who knows certainly not myself. Never felt the holy spirit in me.

Or maybe some other faith would do what Christianity did.

Not inclined to address the issue of aliens or real gods or any of that, personally. Not saying there's something wrong with it, but its hard to address properly.
 
I'm not a big scholar on Islam but can you explain to me why there would not be Islam with out Christians?

If you look at history from an agnostic standpoint:
Christianity was based off of Judaism. Islam, in turn, incorporated many Christian ideas. If Judaism does not exist, Christianity does not. If Christianity does not exist, Islam does not.
 
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